# Episode 032 with Andre Gilbert and Roberto Gonzalez - The dreamers mindset, building a real foundation, enjoying the journey and committing to your vision

- Episode: 0032
- Date: 2020-03-28
- Duration: 1:36:13
- Guests: [Andre Gilbert](/guests/andre-gilbert/) & [Roberto Gonzalez](/guests/roberto-gonzalez/)
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESd6VriJ1TE
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## About

Andre and Rob, both visionaries, run a clothing company born here in The Great Pacific Northwest.  They came by to chalk it up and have a brew. We start er off with aliens, wild woods people, space exploration, the dark side of the moon and brain-computer interfaces. We end up with talk about the birth of ideas, encouragement of dreams and the incredible power of believing in yourself. Rob and Andre have been encouraging each other since the first day they met. They're both avid dream chasers and consistently feed their future with new knowledge and positive momentum. The way they keep EYE Clothing a constant improving dreamscape of connection and community is incredibly admirable. They've got years of working festivals and fairs under their belt, they love the outdoors and they have fantastic views on dreams, self-belief, life, consuming positive content and becoming resourceful. These dudes are DIY dreamers and this conversation plays out like some encouraging friends at a party dreamin it up around the outdoor glass table on the back deck. "The people who change the world are often the ones who are crazy enough to believe that they can" - Steve Jobs

|| - checkout everything EYE at eyeclothingco.com/ - follow them on insta @ eyeclothingco and check back to episode 002 of The Junkyard Love Podcast for more info on the wonderful Rob Gonzalez and the 'why' of EYE.

## Chapters

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## Quotes

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## Guest links (from published notes)

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## Archive picks

# Archive picks (not from published notes)

Extracted from the YouTube auto-caption transcript and published About already on this episode. Labeled separately from Jacob’s published About / Chapters / Quotes / Hashtags.

## Memorable quotes

- [00:00:06] Jacob: “freedom after escaping North Korea it's crazy you should totally check it out what's a perspective on the life for show today we've got Andre and Beto Andre”
- [00:01:54] Andre: “it's a front for our space company space company yes you don't know anything about aliens not yet what do you know about aliens you sure you lyin”
- [00:01:54] Andre: “know anything about aliens not yet what do you know about aliens you sure you lyin I don't think I know if you gotta tell me you know”
- [00:09:15] Andre: “one night I was out walking my dogs up the road at my house where it kind of overlooks the whole town and stuff and I was looking”
- [00:29:56] Jacob: “Steve Jobs even said the people who changed the world or often the ones who are crazy enough to believe that they can write so you are kind”
- [00:29:56] Jacob: “often the ones who are crazy enough to believe that they can write so you are kind of a strange person or weird I guess if that's what”
- [00:38:45] Roberto: “Did the Clark County Fair and that was our first time doing that event yeah and then we met a lot of people that went to that event”
- [00:43:05] Roberto: “Third eye here that's what it's all about that should open I love it bro”
- [00:01:54] Jacob: “were telling me that EYE Clothing is actually like some sort of front for some sort of alien work”
- [01:34:39] Andre: “Would be appreciate your struggle because struggle is what builds you how do you think diamonds are formed they're built through pressure you know and eat to become”
- [01:34:39] Andre: “you how do you think diamonds are formed they're built through pressure you know and eat to become the diamond and not only that takes a lot of”
- [01:33:45] Roberto: “that the world knows don't quit don't quit whatever it is that you want to do in your life you can do it just don't quit you know”

## Chapter-style timestamps

- [00:00:06](#t-00-00-06) — Opening bumper — Junkyard Love
- [00:01:54](#t-00-01-54) — Andre — EYE Clothing as space-company front
- [00:09:07](#t-00-09-07) — Andre — alien / light-in-the-sky story
- [00:29:56](#t-00-29-56) — Steve Jobs — crazy enough to believe
- [00:30:55](#t-00-30-55) — How Andre & Roberto linked up / trunk shirts
- [00:32:56](#t-00-32-56) — Fairs / festivals / EYE Clothing path
- [00:43:05](#t-00-43-05) — Third eye / EYE Clothing meaning
- [01:34:39](#t-01-34-39) — Closing — struggle builds you / diamonds

## Keywords

Andre Gilbert, Roberto Gonzalez, Rob Gonzalez, Beto, EYE Clothing, Junkyard Love Podcast episode 0032, JYLP 0032, dreamers mindset, self-belief, aliens, space exploration, festivals, fairs, DIY dreamers, Pacific Northwest, Steve Jobs, personal growth, Jacob Rhines

## Hashtags

#AndreGilbert #RobertoGonzalez #EYEClothing #JYLP0032 #JunkyardLove #DreamersMindset #SelfBelief #DIYDreamers #PacificNorthwest #JYLP

## Short guest bios (from episode speech + published About/links)

Andre Gilbert and Roberto Gonzalez (Rob / Beto) join Jacob on Junkyard Love episode 0032. Jacob's published notes describe them as visionaries running EYE Clothing, born in the Great Pacific Northwest — avid dream chasers who encourage each other, work festivals and fairs, love the outdoors, and talk dreams, self-belief, positive content, and resourcefulness. The published About opens with aliens, wild woods people, space exploration, the dark side of the moon and brain-computer interfaces, then moves into the birth of ideas and believing in yourself; it closes with a Steve Jobs line about people crazy enough to believe they can change the world. Notes point to eyeclothingco.com / @eyeclothingco and episode 002 for more on Rob Gonzalez and the why of EYE. No personal email published in episode notes.


## Tags / keywords

Andre Gilbert, Roberto Gonzalez, Rob Gonzalez, Beto, EYE Clothing, Junkyard Love Podcast episode 0032, JYLP 0032, dreamers mindset, self-belief, aliens, space exploration, festivals, fairs, DIY dreamers, Pacific Northwest, Steve Jobs, personal growth, Jacob Rhines

## Transcript

[00:00:06] Jacob: Hello welcome to the Junkyard Love OMI dudes in my dudettes welcome to the Junkyard Love pot yes where before we get going I like to leave a recommendation and today's recommendation is in the form of a ten minute and 48 seconds long TED talk on YouTube it is called what I learned about freedom after escaping North Korea it's crazy you should totally check it out what's a perspective on the life for show today we've got Andre and Beto Andre and Rob it's a great episode this was from February 10th I believe it's a little bit back in the archives I'm working through the archives currently as of course I'm not having a new guests come face to face here with me at the studio so I did and maybe doing more video conferencing and did some meditation mindfulness conversation this morning with a friend that I recorded that I may upload in the form of a podcast and I may be doing some more mindfulness meditation related stuff audio things and guided meditations in the coming days and while we're on quarantine here so be on the lookout for that anyway here is the episode I hope

[00:01:54] Jacob: You enjoy it have a good rest of you today take care of yourself get outside and breathe some fresh air don't be afraid of the outside just because we're locked inside just be afraid of touching people and surfaces wash your hands let's go alright so we uh we're gonna Start things off with Andre you were telling me that EYE Clothing is actually like some sort of front for some sort of alien work

[00:01:54] Andre: Not alien but it's a front for our space company space company yes you don't know anything about aliens not yet what do you know about aliens you sure you lyin I don't think I know if you gotta tell me you know you're obligated to tell me it'd be cool if they existed I think it'd be awesome to not be alone in this massive universe Okay what do you guys generally think let's start with aliens for sure bet to pull this thing a little bit closer to your mouth when you're getting there okay what do you think cuz like I feel like I was watching Joe Rogan in they like

[00:02:50] Jacob: Does I think the CIA has officially like said like yeah we do have this saucer and we don't it's like actual government information I think now it's not like they're like denying it but I don't know like what can we even do with that what do you guys think oh no I totally believe in them there was this one time

[00:03:05] Andre: I was out camping and Abernathy seen a lot of crazy **** out there isold yeah let's start with the UFO story the craziest **** out there right lay out the location for them that get hot burn Athey if you've been an out in the woods in the area then you know where the exact imagine people who are listening to podcast don't know the area so wooded area you go out towards Long Beach is about 15 minutes how you take Abernathy Road as you go you follow that road all the way til the end and you get onto a dirt road and there's just a whole bunch of dirt roads out there that you can take a lot of people go out there to go shooting to go camping you know and throw parties yeah use a party over

[00:03:51] Jacob: That's how it was rescued is if you think it's like different than people from like Florida per se but that's what happens when you're from here so yeah exactly yeah one night we were out there it was

[00:04:01] Andre: Me and two other buddies and I remember just randomly waking up in the middle and I think I had a piss or something and I look up at the sky and I was like whoa what the hell I'm like what is that

[00:04:14] Jacob: And you would just see like this light do mean like all kinds of different like zig zags in the sky like you know how like a plane would usually just go like straight you know just keep going this thing was saying in one spot then it would go down and it would go up and then it'd go to the left and then to go right and then it looked like it was getting closer to us so I woke up my friends and I'm like dude check that light out and they woke up and they're like what the **** they saw it - this is the thing I was like I thought you couldn't do you poor guy you're just out there by yourself it's gone I woke everyone up and I was like dude what the **** and yeah it was the same deal with them so

[00:04:57] Andre: That was the UFO story and then dude

[00:05:00] Roberto: There was this one time we went out there this was probably like my senior year in high school apparently the story is there's gypsies out there and like weird people and whatnot so we went out there with a

[00:05:12] Jacob: Group of like eight me we're just you know driving around the dirt roads it was probably like Ted and p. m. and you make this one stop and we just like go look around and I remember smelling like something was dead I flashed my light

[00:05:28] Roberto: And I there's like this shred up carcass of like a deer and I get like this group to come check it out I'm like you know everyone come check this out and then the girls that we were with or like ah like we gotta go so we hop into the truck and as we're pull cuz it was a dead end scene you had to do like the whole turn thing so we were turning and

[00:05:51] Jacob: Soon as we turned the truck straight we

[00:05:55] Roberto: See this dude with long ass hair just you can't even look at his eyes he's just looking straight down and just like

[00:06:02] Jacob: Staring at us and we're like what the

[00:06:06] Roberto: Hook all the girls start screaming and

[00:06:09] Jacob: Dude yeah we were like what the **** is so the dude with the tread and then this whatever it was I don't know if it was a guy or a girl starts walking into the woods and the dude and the truck starts driving closer to him and then the man thing stops and just like stares at us and we slowly start driving off and we just start saying crap to it and then dude

[00:06:37] Roberto: Starts chasing us and yeah dude it was so into a crazy music video like dude it

[00:06:44] Jacob: Was the craziest thing I've ever seen I'm like what the **** I don't know what it was I mean probably some sort of gypsy thing or some witch there's like D why are you out there that like I said it was like out to end yeah dude it's like it's way out there so it's like why are you out any other cars out there to know like yeah cuz it's like he's clearly living out there at some sort somewhere by there right like he must have been there his home you forget on his tariff yes that's it like 2 creepiest actually no there was another time to a brunette these are crazy small kind of **** hit me with it so again there was another time we were out there we were partying and whatnot and we decided oh let's just stay out here as long as we can we'll just bring food and you know just live out here so I think it was like we did it so we were out there for a full day and then towards the end of the like a lot the next day it got dark and it was just like windy and stuff even we could just hear like someone walking around us and

[00:07:45] Jacob: Just like it felt like we were being watched you get that feeling may I no

[00:07:50] Roberto: Doubt so we immediately all were like **** this we're going home and we just packed our stuff up we didn't see anything but we just got so freaked out and yeah at that point I think I was probably like only like a freshman or a sophomore so it was kind of like holy **** just

[00:08:08] Jacob: Get out of here let's just leave that's creepy dude that feeling is mad real like I always talk about everybody knows and it's hard to explain like you driving on the ferry going 70 and you like take a glance over at the **** and he knows instantly that you just looked at him and you feel it

[00:08:25] Andre: Like it's some sort of like and you know if you're the victim of being glanced at you're like what the **** like you look over you know even a little kid in the back seat of a car is something like that there's nowhere you know even going 70 miles an hour with like a metal box iran-us you can get that feeling so definitely when you're in like a you know a wooded area like with your with your friends like you know okay we're vulnerable like it kind of reminds you quickly if like this fun and games were having it's like you hear something you're like oh yeah this is like the real there could be something out there like it's like I could feel that I feel that all the time I mean not in the woods all the time but at our stores or especially at shows if you look at somebody then often they look back at you like you know that you knew that you were looking at each other or something yeah strange it's just it's a Miss love

[00:09:07] Jacob: Connection that solid is all these semi-truck drivers that I probably been in love with Andre you got any alien

[00:09:15] Andre: Stories he got in the alien or even weird one night I was out walking my dogs up the road at my house where it kind of overlooks the whole town and stuff and I was looking up at the sky cuz I know me always just face off looking up into the you know into space and I saw this light I guess where there's some sort of a it looked like it was an aircraft or spaceship or something I guess but it did some weird turning and stuff where it like shot in one direction and then change direction super fast and when another plane can't

[00:09:47] Jacob: Just do that's what I told you do you know if that can do that right little and then it just took off and disappeared and I thought man that was pretty crazy I need to get something like that sure be driving every day if we have this if we have this kind of technology already like a you know that's what we need to use for our space company or what I'd like to use to get around because traffic is a pain yeah like we can solve all this LA traffic we don't have to build tunnels underneath LA bro we can just borrow that alien space time gravity and just shoot it have you guys seen how they like I watched there's a Bob Lazar documentary on Netflix I'm here too that is bizarre but I me and my buddy Eric just watched

[00:10:32] Andre: It recently and I hadn't heard Joe Rogan and should talk about it but they talk about like what they think like the mechanism would be around like a flying saucer of like how it actually I can move like that and how it like bends space and time or whatever and they're essentially kind of like saying imagine like space and time being like a soft

[00:10:52] Jacob: Mattress and like putting a bowling ball in a soft mattress - like everything like falls into it roll marbles it go towards it so it's

[00:11:02] Andre: Like very I think there was like an important conceptualization that probably had drawn that together better but either way it's some sort of like intense like space-time but like the only way that would work if those thrusters were actually moving as quickly as it made it look like it was moving as if they were like bending space and time in this way and they talked about it in some insane way it's just like yeah one for the technologies here man oh yes I mean for how big the universe is we can't even really comprehend how massive it really is right it would be pretty ridiculous for us to be like the only living species out there that is intelligent or really any life like our planet is the only one out of trillions it has life on it's incredibly likely if that's true it really does raise the bar for how special that we really are and obviously you look out into space you don't just see life everywhere so we really are special with everything that we have but

[00:11:55] Jacob: I think there has to be something

[00:11:57] Andre: Else out there ly something well there is other planets with water so you would think anything with water has some sort of life on it yeah all the ingredients for life billions of years I mean happened here exactly happen other

[00:12:10] Jacob: Places yeah somehow we grew out of being like salamanders or whatever the hell the process was the ocean is another weird one isn't that also crazy like space you know it's the frontier out there I'm like there's so much to explore but like we haven't explored it's like only like **** six percent of our oceans or something crazy like that like we know more about the surface of the Moon and Mars that we do about the bottom of the ocean right which is so pretty it gets so deep I remember seen a documentary of them emptying the

[00:12:40] Andre: Ocean and then there's this depth that's

[00:12:45] Jacob: Deeper it's like 20 times the size of the Grand King and if they were to empty but I remember seeing like the video it

[00:12:52] Andre: Showed like a plane next to this cliff literally it started like small and then it zoomed out all the way and like you couldn't see the plane anymore oh yeah just because how big it was all like holy crap yeah and for aliens I mean you may not have to go that far because they say that there's a few moons in our own solar system went around Saturn and went around Jupiter that have a frozen layer of ice around it in a

[00:13:19] Jacob: Liquid layer of water underneath the ice

[00:13:22] Andre: And so you could have a whole ocean filled of life on each one of those moons so what is it like what is the so cuz when we think water we think like I don't know is it like saltwater ocean water like is it is it really water or is it just like the

[00:13:37] Jacob: Compounds of water like the elements that we oxygen so that water is made of yeah but is it like a bunch of other crazy ass **** mixed in with it and it's kind of like a liquid close to water no

[00:13:48] Andre: I mean liquid water but even if we discovered gas that we know like oh we know how to turn that into like the gas form of water we can even take planets like that and like okay what can we apply to this planet and get to where we need to go yes another interesting thing also Blair yeah I know that so like I was listening this thing it's just like YouTube video I think but they were saying that 2020 is definitely the year of like the moon like a like people getting up to the moon and like actually doing work I can you go one minute and **** yeah so like more people able to get to the moon not just like certain to people who afford like the nice spaceships or whatever mmm no ton amount about it but it's interesting to think of there's like some sort of treaty I guess like over 100 companies signed it or country signed it that says like the earth is or the moon is like kinda like the sky like you can't own it or whatever but I think it's gonna get like

[00:14:44] Andre: Weird like we're gonna have to remake laws because people gonna start mining it and so things are taking elements from it the big thing that's changing with space is before exploration was always done by governments you know all the way back from building the sail ships and moving out and starting colonies and stuff was all funded by the government but now with all the technology that exists and for things that are you know able to be created nowadays a lot of companies are starting to move into this space I mean you have companies in there they're there to you know make a profit and do it a lot faster and get the ball rolling with in different ways and governments to normally move with different motivations you know of course I got to go up there and make money but if it's a profitable thing now they can keep doing it and you know do a lot of other things that the government wouldn't be getting to for who knows how long if not ever right I feel like it's a crazy weird at that time in like human civilization like it

[00:15:38] Andre: We've like now I mean I don't think it's a brand new or anything but there's always been ways I'm sure but there's a lot of way it's like seating space we've now advanced like past to government like right okay well the government laws they didn't even take time to write them down about space so we're just gonna go do that while you guys figure out your paperwork in that old wood room right oh yeah I mean you see you on musk of everything that he's done he started a space company in a car

[00:16:02] Jacob: Company yeah most to ridiculous

[00:16:04] Andre: Almost impossible things to do and it's working he's changing the world and he probably will start the colony on Mars here one of these days I absolutely believe it dude and same for mr. Amazon Jeff Bezos he has his own space company called Blue Origin and they have plans of going to the moon and building rockets that are capable of taking cargo of you know that far to other places in the solar system Richard Branson he's a guy that owns Virgin Mobile virgin airlines they have a company called Virgin Galactic and they're gonna be taking tourists up into space on this plane that drops like a small spaceship

[00:16:39] Jacob: And then it fires a rocket and takes you up into like the edge of space and how much do you think that cost like 30 grand or is probably like a quarter of a million dollars I get this ooh me funny

[00:16:48] Andre: Is like it's gonna be like more of a you know over the 20 years or whatever it happens it'll be more and more touristy like it'll be like it'll get cheaper too so people will be able to realistically afford it yeah I think like in 20 years it'll probably cost like ten thousand dollars or so to go to space it's gonna move a lot faster than what we really think like 20 years from now there's gonna be a whole of a lot more innovations and changes in the last 20 years in the 20 years before right things are speeding up faster than what we really notice or even comprehend yeah things are speeding up at an exponential rate for sure I think that a lot of people are like kind of just hoping that

[00:17:27] Andre: We're gonna get to a point where like we birth some AI that starts taking care of all this all the information that we're getting like we have so much we're trying to do and so much quickly and it's happening so fast that's just data that we can't **** handle in 24 hours with that you brain right there's probably a ton of people who are like hopefully a I just awakens and they take care of they answer all these hard questions that keep coming up you know okay I mean that's probably why they're talking about building a way to connect your brain into the computers because how else can you keep up with it so our brains aren't built to go through that much information yeah it's so crazy so it's so temp we were we were talking about that a little bit tell me about what do you know about neuro link that's eelain's yeah they're basically building ways

[00:18:11] Jacob: That you can connect your brain to a computer and then you can control things like a you know a car or a boat

[00:18:19] Andre: Or a plane or just controlling your regular computer but just through your mind and so that's kind of the crazy thing to think about the future of house how far smartphones have came but things are getting smaller and more powerful so eventually we'll probably not even need to use our thumbs or our hands no use computers you'll just think with your mind because that's the fastest way that we can move yep dude I have a weird way to think about texting or communicating in the future when everybody is inside your head I know it's gonna see what's gonna be crazy is by the time it comes around it's going to somehow seem normal like just as like if you would have told us you know 20 years ago like you're gonna be carrying that thing on the wall with the cord you're gonna turn me in your pocket you'd be like what any time out like I'm gonna care nothing you want pocket everywhere I go right I can now it's like you know the phone is more part of us than our favorite hat you know yeah has we're wearing it every day

[00:19:11] Jacob: Can't leave home without it think about

[00:19:14] Andre: Civilizations that are like million years ahead of us like what kind of technology do they have different way to see things to you like whoa in a million years even that much compared to billions of years yeah us like humans are like the slowest and most patient technology like we're like millions of years but we took billions of years like whoever the **** made us when I was going on there you know sure like no long journey it's gonna do you

[00:19:48] Jacob: Guys remember it seems like it took a long time yeah man it'd be crazy to get I think

[00:19:56] Roberto: That I think I saw so for the neuro-link thing they were gonna like isn't like a thin needle and it's like implanted in your brain right it's like a chip they don't haven't totally figured out right it's yeah it's kind of like a fiber optic connection in your brain they implant it yeah but eventually you probably won't even need something to be implanted in your brain I'm sure you could just have like a hat or something or maybe you know as long as whatever the computer is can just read your neurons in your brain and scan which ones are firing that's the way that they can connect it into the computer yeah dude it's so interesting because you but at that point you know when we get so much information about like human emotions and like I learned a lot about like trauma and like different like you know people acting out of different ways like there was this one guy who essentially like he was normal guy and he ended

[00:20:46] Roberto: Up like murdering people or like killing his family or something but he left a note essentially like there's something wrong with me you should biopsy my brain and they open up his brain and it was a tumor he had a tumor it was pressing on him and it was like that was like kind of leading to the reasons why he like went you know kind of insane and like kill people or whatever it was but it's interesting you know once we have all this data this information on everybody walking around like how where

[00:21:12] Andre: Can we like place blame as a society like oh you're a bad person when they say like oh that's that brain is there that neuron is firing this way so we'll give you this thing to fix it like I think that knowing all that information and like not just the person who's able to like oh I can send a text with my own thoughts like that's cool but also like where's the information about your everyday thoughts getting uploaded to and who's holding that data on who owns that data and what does it tell whoever's holding it about humans what

[00:21:40] Jacob: Can they do with it you know right it's that's the problem with humanity is there's a lot of good that you can do but a lot of people are always gonna use it for the wrong things I'm sure - all right what do you guys think

[00:21:52] Andre: You are - a wonderful fine gentleman and

[00:21:55] Jacob: You're definitely both leaders if you had **** bucco bucks you got the money you got the scrilla like eelain's a contact on your phone you can like bro I need this money for this thing like what would you invent mic like this is saying this is a magical scenario where you also have like much scientist so you can be like yeah this idea you make it and they'll make it what do you think that you would invent like with unlimited like what problem could you solve would it be for profit or just a way to give back or is it just an idea that we've

[00:22:24] Andre: Had there are all three there's no rules let's say once you bring come up with himming with it one thing I've always loved the idea would is to make machines that can go out and 3d print buildings or you know houses and things for people around the world as a way that you could print you know water filtration facility out in the developing area where people need water in order to produce power you know nice places to live and things like that would be really cool to build on the

[00:22:53] Jacob: Other end of things

[00:22:54] Andre: I think asteroid mining would be the most exciting part of my future of technology to build yeah because there's infinite resources out there in every direction that you can look and there's also infinite amounts of money that you could make off of that so do we know what's out there like the resources that are like in so say like Saturn's **** asteroid belt or whatever like do we know yeah do we know like is it like are they new elements to us out there do know that yeah or is it the same stuff that makes everything on this planet this isn't that how the planet was

[00:23:27] Jacob: Created to begin with possibly all that is hitting it I'm not qualified to tell you that's a big question but we know that all the elements you know that are here and all the materials and stuff exists in infinite quantities out there in space and some asteroids are full of

[00:23:47] Andre: Mostly frozen water and ice which we can

[00:23:50] Jacob: Use for oxygen water growing plants and things for Space Station's or exploration I'm also rocket fuel yes you take hydrogen and oxygen which are GU highly flammable explosive gases and you split them apart now you have rocket fuel bruin being able to like make it quickly like being it like as in like the asteroid belt is like a fuel up station for a rocket sort of thing like if they had a way that it's just like we just sprouted up a gas station for rockets yeah obviously like a spit well if you're building like as a transport infrastructure up there you would need to have fueling stations and everything so this is what opens up the all of these possibilities for the future of being multiplanetary or pushing further out off of our own planet as you need all the resources because you can't just bring all of it off of earth because that's why you need all these huge rockets and there's a huge amount of money that you have to spend because it cost twenty thousand dollars just to send a liter of water into deep space big bottle that's a lot of money you

[00:24:50] Jacob: Know you need a lot of water up there and there's infinite supplies you know some asteroids have you know small lakes

[00:24:56] Andre: Or even a small oceans worth of water

[00:24:59] Jacob: Frozen into it and then others have all the precious metals and platinum and different things which we use for smartphones and computers and electric vehicles and everything like that there's metals and pretty much anything that you need to build everything is all up there a limit it's not it's not like you're gonna be bringing all of this stuff back to the planet but some of it if you figured out a cheap way to send it back down would be would be helpful but there's just infinite amounts of things that you can build and create and know do with it all up there and if we're building the Space Station's you're not gonna be shipping off millions of tons of metal into space you got to have the resources up there the manufacturer up you know in space with where that's true something we don't think about is like aw let's build a space station up there and you know it's like alright well put a put six two by

[00:25:48] Andre: Fours in that rocket will get the rocket going like it says it takes six days for the countdown because it's such a process and all the legal like jump through z' but yeah get those six pieces of lumber up there an International Space Station that things like as big as like a I think a two-story house about the same square footage of or something like that and that costs hundreds of billions of dollars to make do didn't you see it like in videos and stuff you see them in there and it's like it is longer bang yeah and it's not tiny but you can see it I mean it's in the sky amazing and ever late you can see it you know go **** yeah I don't think that I've ever known to look or known that I could know that I could see it do you know like is there a specific place where it's like you could probably see it very well like in the United States like where was it um probably and it might depend on like obviously the clouds and maybe time of year there's a website that you can go to and it'll show you like what time its gonna be passing over your area cool a

[00:26:43] Andre: Spoiler graybles be like oh I want to see that Space Station that's out there in space and you go Google were you at all right bro I love both those ideas mining the asteroid belts and stuff and 3d printing like waterto and planting trees you know we need to build no yeah that can plant billions of trees a year I think that would be a great idea too yeah excellent I love that noise use that okay all right that's what you got I've had this idea for a long times it's

[00:27:11] Jacob: Nothing crazy it's just like you know

[00:27:14] Andre: How air conditioners you got that fat thing sticking out of your window so I came up with this idea called the cool air and it's just yeah it's called the

[00:27:25] Jacob: Cool air I actually have like prototypes and drawings like damn right already ready yeah you know and ostomies is actually talking to Jim I forgot that he worked for an air conditioning company and I showed him the drawings and he's like yeah there's a really good idea he's like we could definitely make this happen really dope so the whole idea behind it is you know instead of having a fat chunk of metal sticking out of

[00:27:51] Andre: Your window I realized this when I was younger I used to love just leaving the doors open on a hot summer day is I used to just like looking out there and you know having that air come in but it sucked because it was warm air I'm like what if cool air came in through the window instead of warm air that way you know it cools your house but you also get to keep the window open and the whole concept line is have it be a screen instead of like this big metal thing sticking out of your window that way you get rid of you know the metal thing and just have it be a screen rather than that so yeah that's kind of been my idea for a while but you know yeah take some money to get that going well hey in this scenario you got whatever money you want so you just made your **** magic door exactly see I think that actually makes sense because instead of trying to like okay like make sure no like hot air sneaks through these windows over here like if you just turn in whenever it's coming in just are you similar to cold

[00:28:50] Andre: Yeah bro that makes sense you know you know I don't know like you might have to make some sort of like screening don't wear like it could do that or I don't know exactly the technology you need and this is you don't come up with the technology to create it but it's possible the great thing about every new invention is that it's a new invention exactly yeah new inventions that's like a weird thing like every new invention there had there is probably one guy who just looks like such a fool at the beginning he just looks like such a you know it's such a dummy to everybody around him he's no this thing like I swear this is gonna work you know like and then whoever he had to present it with whatever amount of money this any inventor really has or the very beginning of an idea that's not super conceptualized they're just like showing their girlfriend or wife like these terrible drawings like you know this makes sense right all these things that's where every idea starts out is it has to be different because if it's true wasn't different once you've already have known about it you got to ask yourself what problem am

[00:29:51] Andre: I solving with what I'm creating right you know that's a big question - so

[00:29:56] Jacob: Steve Jobs even said the people who changed the world or often the ones who are crazy enough to believe that they can write so you are kind of a strange person or weird I guess if that's what you want to say you truly believe that you have something that's different that you can create that can make a huge impact in the world and a lot of people may not see it at first and that's normal because if they would have thought about it when they've been doing it first right we're at exactly nobody adjusts and new things that easily all the time and you gotta like you know if there's one person who knows like in the you know that feeling we're talking about like whenever it is like you know that feeling like you it's

[00:30:36] Andre: Gonna be you like if you're the one with the idea you're like **** I think I can like make this a thing like yeah you see it already and it's too tight I don't know man it's gotta be like some gift from somewhere right it's some like hey like you got this is your job like this is something you're supposed to do and you only you can answer the call you know not really the muse doesn't whisper to

[00:30:55] Jacob: To people who aren't willing to listen I guess right incredible all right boys let's uh let's shift a little bit down to earth okay you guys are we don't have to go into too much like all of your all of your backgrounds though we can definitely dip in a little bit better on the podcast Andre I haven't had you on but you guys EYE Clothing alright oh lord die until i die how did how did you two like link up because I knew I knew Beto back in the day we

[00:31:32] Roberto: Had talked about like he was selling his shirts out of this trunk like when I was DJing out in the woods on these same trails yeah with the widow with the gypsies you'd actually check it I just showed onto this picture and this is the one that we did for prom remember prom

[00:31:47] Jacob: Yeah that's fun I didn't go to my senior

[00:31:51] Roberto: Prom so my senior prom I took this

[00:31:54] Jacob: This internship like down in California

[00:31:58] Andre: And I was like it was like a hoss to have the same not kind of my senior prom but I was like coming to work instead and so like making up for us I gotta throw my own prom three years later and we're gonna just drink a shitload alcohol and just be illegal in the woods that's kind of my we would do just like mix up oh gosh just mix up like with the most sugary **** you can find with the most free punchy **** you can find the cheapest vodka you can find you need some five dollars a cup as he pulls up

[00:32:32] Jacob: That a that photo Andre how do you remember how you and Betty likes first started linking up yeah I mean we weren't friends growing up but we just knew of each other because he's friends with more of my older sister's friend group in all them but we came together work on kind of like a another type of a business project sort of an online marketing type thing and just started

[00:32:56] Roberto: Meeting up over that and then you know obviously the clothing business was a huge thing for him and so that was part of our conversations and then the lake came up in the Cowlitz County Fair so I give a hand with that and then we just kept meeting up every single day and just in the garage just scheming on you know what we're gonna do next and you know all we did the Pammy she spent so many hours just chilling in his garage talking about what talking about dreams owing ya just setting goals and

[00:33:26] Jacob: Writing shut down every day like all right we got to go target this we got to go here we got to figure out ways to keep growing the dream you know sometimes you sometimes what it takes we got a lot of us have a lot of great ideas in our head sometimes you just need like you know not so much just like reassurance reaffirmation but just like someone to like kind of **** with you about it and like let you finish some of your half thoughts and like right like oh yeah you should do that bro and then help you create the whole idea so that's something that super dope you guys want explain a little bit more about like your conversations there just because I think it's inspiring to like you know a lot of

[00:34:02] Roberto: Times I think new friendships can really form through new businesses through new ideas I think like through this podcast

[00:34:09] Jacob: For example like I'm teaming back up with people that I know I know I'm but like our conversations are different like they're more like we'll have those **** sessions where we're just like three hours of just like oh I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna do this and this is what I'm working on in my emotional side of life and oh I went through this thing is like just growth conversations right

[00:34:26] Roberto: And I think that like it's actually like when I have those conversations in the podcast or bring them up it's actually shocking to hear how many people don't they're like wow that was it that was a real conversation and I'm like wait you don't talk with your homies like that what do you mean and so I don't know let's just you don't

[00:34:44] Jacob: Have to give too many details but like these conversations what did you guys talk about like just for someone who is like maybe they have an idea maybe they have someone who's like you kind of inspire me like maybe they should hit him up and be like bro you want just **** and talk about ideas or growth or we just I don't we just talk about like you know look at the inventory that we have and figure out where we can sell it at and then you know set an ambitious goal for alright we're gonna sell this amount of much stuff at it and here's what we're

[00:35:14] Roberto: Gonna do next and you know think about different ways that we could do things better we could improve what we're doing um talk about just inspiring things or random things you know about space or the future things that make us excited and everything and it's just helpful to

[00:35:31] Jacob: Have other people around you that they don't try to limit you know what you think that you can do you know they can help you put a new horizon further ahead of where you think is possible and you know that you're sitting there talking about your ideas and they have their own ideas and you're like hell yeah but let's go do this yeah you know cuz there's so much negativity out there and there's so many people out there that they just want to tell you why your idea won't work or why you might have to be special or smart or whatever it is which I mean I don't think that we're that special it's not like I'm the most intelligent person out there and in anything and you don't have to have a college degree to go chase your dreams you know just depends on what you're doing and what you need to get there and

[00:36:14] Roberto: Yeah we and then we just hit the fairs and what do we do for the holidays maybe let's get a storefront somewhere yeah and then we thought all right we'll wear and we thought you know obviously the mall up here is pretty dead doesn't even get any busier during the holidays because there's nothing really to go see that's Vancouver's a bigger area and you

[00:36:37] Andre: Know maybe we could check that out so we thought alright well how do you get a store inside the mall and we got ahold of them and said hey we'd like to come see about getting a spot there in the mall like a kiosk or a store and it turned out to actually be cheaper to get a storefront than it was a kiosk so we thought well let's go for it who's exegete I did not yeah it was like

[00:36:57] Jacob: $1,000 cheap she's like just so you know we have a vacant space as a thousand dollars cheaper than a kiosk and we're like well let's go look at it I remember we went checked it out and I saw I saw it already you know I realized what the store was gonna look like and I was like yeah like this is it but then I was hesitant we were hesitant about it just because we were like dude like you don't have that much clothes how are we gonna

[00:37:25] Andre: Do this you know we were super hesitant about I remember we went and grabbed some Chipotle after and were like dude wish we do like uh well scare money doesn't make no money and hold the trigger on it and you know I can today making it work because that's the thing you gotta hop onto the opportunity when it's there because if you don't you're gonna let it pass by and then you're gonna be looking back like ding maybe I should have done that right yeah and said we're more of people that are just gonna take action and figure it out on the way yet might get tough and it might be not be the best decision but you just got to do it you know like if you're not gonna do you're gonna look back and just regret it like I'd rather have the pain of like

[00:38:07] Jacob: Doing it then have the pain of thinking about it yeah pull the trigger man once you got the story all right like we got the story now we'll figure out how to fill the walls to bear in there really I

[00:38:23] Andre: Mean it yeah that's I think like the

[00:38:26] Jacob: Boutique stores kind of help out to like there is like a simplistic you could bag huh that's it that's a one-of-a-kind it's like it's not just my last large it's just one of a cat you guys got

[00:38:37] Andre: **** **** now too and well it

[00:38:40] Jacob: Was cool getting into there because I

[00:38:42] Andre: Remember we that was the same year we

[00:38:45] Roberto: Did the Clark County Fair and that was our first time doing that event yeah and then we met a lot of people that went to that event they're like whoa weren't you guys just had Clark County Fair you guys have a store now yeah we got a store so

[00:39:02] Jacob: That was a cool feeling too and that's the thing like ended up working out on our half because after at the beginning

[00:39:11] Roberto: Of the year in January dude our shelves were completely empty we sold everything people would come in and be like where is everything we're like we sold it so like wow I guess that's a good problem to have right it is a good problem to have but it's also like we need more stuff on the shelves because you're coming in you and you can't buy anything you know right so I've got to keep the flow bro that's the thing about starting you know start in humble beginnings and

[00:39:37] Jacob: Just really doing yourself like not having like you know million-dollar investors where it's like no matter if you're not even so and we're still got back stock coming bro we still got back style coming you know it's you exist ads do this or you do yeah I think it's good it keeps your hustle though I mean like you like you see a I'm sure you guys see like we're getting low on hoodies and it starts like **** we gotta work harder you know like we got it let's get that let's get that **** filled up you know

[00:39:59] Roberto: So it's good it's good that it comes full-circle fairs and fairs and doing

[00:40:04] Jacob: More than just the store stuff I feel like you guys have probably experienced some pretty cool stuff right like have you I mean whether it's like different

[00:40:12] Roberto: Kind of customers what is like the fair crowd attract how is that different you don't meet a lot of different people in a short period of time in a cool yeah is it fun though like you met with nice people don't always love it's a good especially during the summertime you know the weather's nice and we're gonna hit the road and travel around to different cities and set up for a few days or like Yakima is like a ten day event so we're on the other side of the state for a while yeah and you know I always love talking to people and stuff like that so we have a blast out there and everything yeah it's just so cool getting the reactions of people when they hear what it's all about like you know that's what's the most priceless thing for me at least you know like just

[00:40:57] Jacob: The expression on their faces when they like you know they see how passionate we are about what we're saying and they just look at you in the eyes like wow like good job like this is freaking cool yeah dude you know that's the only never yeah no like that's why I love being in the stores that's why I love going to these shows because to be able to make that connection with my people you know this is our community you know even today like read some so it

[00:41:25] Roberto: Was pretty cool this lady can't you met her at the show and she literally message us on Instagram and I was just like wow like check this out Andre like this is **** badass like this lady really appreciates it appreciates us so she's like I met you at the sportsman show today and I have to say what you do what you stand for and the message you put out I will support that **** all damn day props to you and all your hard work you have you sold to be a customer for life I wish I would have bought more four of your merchandise today keep up the hard and amazing work you do fellas just a thing of being stuff like that it's like dang D like we're really making an impact I'll write the extra goes but dude you

[00:42:09] Roberto: Don't you guys don't just like print a thing on a shirt and then like I hopefully that one sells like it's like you get to interact with people when you tell them about here's what that design here's what it's about here's what it means so when you're wearing it here's what you can think about what exactly you know and that's the whole purpose of the design is that hopefully you wake up and you don't wake up on the right side of the bed and you look into your closet and you see one of our designs and you're like I remember that

[00:42:34] Jacob: Conversation I had with those dudes like I'm wearing this today to make myself feel better you know I hope that's why people were our stuff too you know it's

[00:42:43] Roberto: Why I'm wearing it oh yeah I definitely like wearing this I mean it's orange so that definitely helps but I got my evergreen beanie on or in it you I

[00:42:52] Jacob: Definitely wear it out in the woods but I feel like it's like a good I'll take like 10 minute like me talking about like meditation or some sort of emotional enlightenment something and I just got like my eye

[00:43:05] Roberto: Third eye here that's what it's all about that should open I love it bro

[00:43:10] Jacob: Yeah I really like how it's the whole experience you know when people come in and they get to talk to you guys and they I always repeat that like they get the whole experience of what

[00:43:20] Roberto: It's really about and in lifelong customers is definitely a thing like you know just in our community like you can go down like you know going down South Portland Vancouver up here obviously a ton like you see people who are wearing EYE Clothing stuff and they're in the they're probably gonna get another hat next year they're gonna get another hoodie next and if it's the same design they enjoy it they like repin it

[00:43:40] Jacob: And another thing that I like about the community that we're building it's like people will see someone rockin I and go Up to him be like oh you're rockin EYE Clothing like **** yeah like those guys are so cool yeah and it'll spark a conversation like I had my friend Madi messaged me the other day her daughter was wearing the forever green treaty at one of the jumping houses and she literally message me she's like yeah my daughter was wearing a your t-shirt and some lady came up to us and was like I love those guys you know and then they just started talking about us and whatnot like the fact that people are out there literally talking about us well while they're wearing our stuff is like pretty cool you know it's like it's a humbling feeling to know that people will see our designs and just go up to someone random and just spark a conversation with them right now yeah it opens up like a whole like it's kind of like a like so say I'm in Sam in Chicago

[00:44:42] Andre: Right like I know I don't know anybody but I like the Seahawks I'm from Washington you know I've got coming Seahawks and I had on you know Seahawks and I see somebody else in Chicago and they got their Seahawks Jersey on like instantly I feel out of place and then I see them and I'm like oh hey I know Rosie dude and I creates that and

[00:45:00] Roberto: It kind of brings out this side of people like you know if you see a 12th man shirt you're like what's up brother **** yeah but like I brings out this like Oh bro like you really get you life don't you like that's you know it's like this like you respect the world around you don't you come on spreading positivity out there it's the best thing - yeah you know we're just putting a positive message out there and something that people can look at and it can maybe help change their perspective or brighten up their day in any way and that's even more motivating for us we want to just work even harder and keep putting more out okay man it's a cool community and you know we love all the people that support us and just keep working hard to meet more people and keep putting it out there excellent yeah I'm with it what else you got a fair ground wise fair wise coming up you guys doing more than that this coming year yeah not about like what 15 more shows something like

[00:45:53] Jacob: That yeah our next one will be the Vancouver night market that's a little we do we'll do that one every month that we can it's a more of a smaller one but yeah our next show we might be doing lucky but according like all the USC stuff that's going on we don't even have that's actually going on two million dollars I'm sure it's like more than just like the like pace and stuff that we see on the news or on the on reddit or whatever I'm sure there is way more details but yeah I read about that **** like us like Paradiso might not be around anymore well what happened was the one company was given a bunch of money by the other company that they partnered with and then a lot of vendors didn't get paid or things didn't get paid an artist and the

[00:46:41] Andre: Money was disappeared or something like that so now they're getting sued by the other company that gave him that money and they're gonna try and take over those events and still put them on I think I'd be found that insomniac is great insomniac is Pasquale Rotella who does EDC yeah dude I've been to up into a few EDC's in Vegas like the big EDC it still haven't gone Oh bro you would love it's so crazy it's what like I think I would die now like I think I'm just like I'm - I don't know like old man

[00:47:10] Roberto: Don't want to touch people but it's so **** fun it's so sick I want I want Shaylee and Megan to go definitely for sure we might get a bit down there here one of these years do you that'd be so fun it's an experience it's a you know obviously all of Vegas has taken over like just by it's like everything is transformed it's a kind of having like a theme in Vegas for a whole it's kind of what it is like so like you wake up like regardless of going to the Motor Speedway where it's only 12 miles but it takes you like an I don't have to get there because the traffic is so crazy but outside of that like you wake up and there's like pool party pool party pool party like cascades plan in here and Afrojack swears like there's just so much to do too much to do

[00:47:51] Jacob: Absolutely too much to do but it's very cool to be like there and you feel very you know like when you go to shows

[00:47:59] Andre: Like especially like Electronic Show like you've kind of feels like a lot of people kind of get permission to be there like full weird selfs in a way you know I got I feel fine dancing around when there's other people dancing around for boots next to me you know like that but that's what you would love Vegas

[00:48:18] Jacob: Because it's all available who are like-minded everybody it's like super happy and pumped to have a good time yeah it's definitely our community oh yeah they know what it's like to be woke we're positive P they know what it's like to be what's the best thing I mean pretty much from spring all the way through the fall is the road-tripping season you know and being affairs almost every weekend or every other weekend and stuff and it's a lot of work but it's all worth it and you know we got to keep pushing the company out there and a great way to spend the summer and that's the thing to like even if like we don't make the cells that we expect to make a certain event it's not even just about making the cells but just meeting those people that we spoke about before you know making the impact on their life you know that they would have never got if we would have never gone and just the fact that we're able to get our name out there to all these people that come to these events is what in the end actually makes it worth it absolutely is it to us

[00:49:22] Jacob: It's not about making a dollar but it's about making a difference yeah we got to pay our bills but like I'd rather just be able to get our name out there and our messages out there as much as we can right you know while we're on the road yeah and I think maybe next year when we

[00:49:39] Andre: Start doing our own printing you want to start doing shows like out of state too like the Pacific Northwest maybe head

[00:49:49] Jacob: Down to California see some there and

[00:49:53] Andre: Head down to Texas and start doing shows

[00:49:56] Roberto: There because they have some of the biggest fairs out there too right so not only that last year we met this guy at the Puyallup State Fair which is a 23 day long event

[00:50:07] Jacob: And this guy was from California this dude was like dude he's like I really like you guys his stuff I guarantee if you guys were to go to California you guys would kill it down there and then he told us a couple shows to go to because he was obviously you had a show in Washington you know so and he's from

[00:50:26] Roberto: Cali so yeah next year were excited to be able to travel more and do a little bit more in different communities you know get our messages out there and you know spark the minds around those communities be conscious of you know

[00:50:41] Jacob: Their actions and thoughts to never stop growing every day how do you guys balance like bet so I know you love fishing you like being outdoors and obviously like you know like when it's when it's something that you love doing and it's something that seems to go hand in hand with just your life like it's you know of course there's days where it feels like work of course there's those days where you like I just kind of like did paper work today or whatever most time it's hand in hand how do you guys work on balancing like the things that you enjoy life so better I know that you like fishing outdoors Andriy I don't know what do you like to do what's your enjoyable things how do you and how do you balance them with work um well there's not a whole lot of time for play just because there's so much to do especially in the early a few years or so but you know we try to take a little bit of time every once in a while when we're able to and I like you know just being outside hiking you know writing motorcycles exploring

[00:51:36] Roberto: New places right very easily entertained so it doesn't always take a whole lot yeah but I grew up going to the sand dunes and writing quads down there and um you know I like just taking things apart and more you know building things or who's reading you know books and filling up my mind with new things and ideas and yeah I mean I don't get a whole lot of time but you know we have a lot of fun on our trips at least to that keeps us entertained and yeah full of you know energy and new things so it's not it's not like it's like a super separate like okay I gotta stop working so I can do this kind of just like a you're plugging along it's just part of your life like you're enjoying yes randomly fits in there and go for a hike cuz whenever you can just fit it in and then another thing dude now that we got into the bigger shop and Justins committed with us to like it's definitely helped us get a little bit more extra time be able to do or whatever we want to do you know that's the thing it can always be work like you

[00:52:39] Roberto: Literally have to take a break here and there because if not you're gonna exhaust yourself and it makes it way harder if I just don't you know take a day off at least to just go do your thing and do you right bro like look at like so like that lady who messaged you like if you were just working work and work and you have been sleeping you have been like enjoying your life you're stressed out whatever like she comes in maybe you're not able to be your full self yeah that we did you know right yeah you can just glance it off they're so busy wouldn't have a go yeah that's cool whatever yeah cuz that's busy as we get you still got to be able to stop and enjoy the moment and just kind of realize like what you're grateful for in your life and all the awesome reasons to be happy and just keep working hard because you know the

[00:53:26] Jacob: Time that you get off for time that you get to go outside and do that thing that you love doing is we really get a unplug and you know just think about what you're grateful for attitude of gratitude yeah to degrade do you guys ever like catch yourself like you lock up the store and you just like look at it and you're like oh hell yeah all the time yeah thank you like a mission to yourself right you got a you got to add that in there man it's happy to be where we're at you know and to see all the hard work just coming together and building you know the each block one you know block at a time awesome to see everything because we don't really see like how we don't really think that we're that big or see ourselves coming that far just because we're stuck in the everyday of all the little things coming together we're with it every single day but every once in a while we do kind of look back and think like wow we've done a lot come on there's a lot that's came you know built up so far good because that's the thing

[00:54:20] Jacob: Too you get you know looking from the outside in like people from that so you're like oh you guys are super like successful you guys got two stores you guys must be making a lot of money you know yeah I got it's you don't even know what we have to go through to be able to keep this is it's so sweet and soak so

[00:54:41] Roberto: Quick like just because you have like something to show for it means you're like all making the money it's yeah years of struggle it's years and years it's not as easy as it looks yeah but it's but it's full circle it's I was talking with one of my guests yesterday we're talking about just like where like if somebody handed you a million dollars right now like you probably wouldn't know what to do with it like sometimes it's like you got it like you know working the work on the slow game work on the like building up the skills like every conversation that you have is improving your conversation skills every shirt that you print is improving your ability to print shirts quickly and in right on time you know those sort of things like everything adds up like it's all just kind of compound to more and more skills and then the more skills you have that obviously opens up more doors it's a compounding effect you know it's a little things that we do every single day that compound and the end result that we get and not everybody can see

[00:55:35] Roberto: All the work that it takes to create anything but that's why a lot of people quit on their dreams or don't even pursue it just because it is a lot of stuff or they might get overwhelmed but you've got to be more focused on the end result and the long term goals because if your goals are big enough and further ahead in the future that's what really pushes you ahead each day to get up and do the work and what it takes to get to the next level and not quit right you can't quit you never hear about any of the people who gave up you brother ones they keep going how do you how do you bounce so sometimes I sometimes I have trouble with like because when you're thinking about the end goal too much and not just the step in front of you because there is a balance sometimes like somedays anywhere like you don't even want to take that first step cuz then that's like **** now I gotta hit the whole staircase after that like that starts the staircase like so you see like this like a lot of times it's

[00:56:29] Roberto: Like I don't want to start this clothing company because I know that it's gonna be 20 years of like all this whatever so

[00:56:34] Jacob: Sometimes our brains kind of trick us right it seems like so how do you work on like taking the big goal like I know that like this is what our big goal is like I know we're gonna keep going I know that every day we're gonna wake up and keep going towards this goal but how do you condense it down to just how do I function today like how do I make sure I get my **** done today so where it's not so well because sometimes it's like I don't even wanna hit that whole thing because it seems like so much weight on my chest and alone one day you know how

[00:57:01] Roberto: Do you we feel that a lot yeah we're all human here yeah and it's a common a common feeling but I look at it as it's harder to not do that thing your life will be more difficult if you don't take action then you have to deal with the regret the fact that you never you never took that step to try and then it's gonna take a lot of hard work to survive just doing anything it's gonna take a lot of hard work to create what you really want to do so you have to work hard anyway you might as well just do it you know just keep going and it's all about just having the vision and knowing where you're heading and realizing that yeah sucks now but wait twenty years from now like all this hard work and all the time that we put into this is gonna pay off right you know and

[00:57:49] Jacob: That's the thing another way that I'm able to balance it is I just tell myself oh you think this is hard well guess what buddy it's only gonna get harder from here that's literally how I make myself think

[00:58:00] Roberto: Because if you know there's been a lot of times around my game I'm like what if we did just give up but in the back of my mind it's like dude I we're telling yourself that like it's

[00:58:14] Jacob: Only gonna get harder so you think this is hard just wait right so it makes me bounce out of it and be like damn all right like we're thinking like that and then again I just go back to feeding my mind the right things because when I get in get stuck in a rut and start thinking negatively you know you gotta find a way

[00:58:34] Andre: To get yourself out and I feel like that's a big problem and why people fail is because they don't know how to get out like I've been there so many times that I've been able to get out and I know what works for me right and that's just putting the right things into mind my mind whether it's you know reading a

[00:58:50] Jacob: Book or listening to a podcast or just

[00:58:53] Andre: Listening to someone who's been able to get me out of that rut right yeah it's your tie you know not your diet like just food but your mental diet

[00:59:03] Jacob: Right what do you learn yourself every day it's so I feel like we talk about books all the time - you mentioned books dude what are a couple of books you guys would suggest right now it's maybe

[00:59:12] Andre: Getting the magic big thinking and yeah so that's all about just you know like instead of allowing yourself to just think about the regular things think past of what you can actually do and believe in yourself to be able to go cuz one of our favorite sayings is I'd rather aim high and miss a name low and hick because that's the thing my goal used to be like oh let's just do 10 stores you know but the more I've started to feed my mind the more my vision has grown like now the goal is to have a thousand shops one day you know it's like and I would have never thinking this way if I you know wasn't

[00:59:50] Jacob: Eating myself the right things okay so

[00:59:53] Andre: That's my diet is you know just keep

[00:59:55] Jacob: Thinking big because you truly never

[00:59:58] Andre: Know what you can actually do until you

[01:00:01] Jacob: Take action and believe in yourself right I love it what do you got in the way of books you got anything that popped in your mind that's one of the most impactful book that I read was back in high school

[01:00:14] Andre: Probably my sophomore year or so and it was thinking Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill bang and yeah one of the greats if you haven't heard of it's definitely a great place to start and it's not just

[01:00:28] Jacob: The fact that what you believe in or what you think is just gonna become a reality like it's just gonna happen one day but anything that you want in life I mean you can achieve if you really put your mind in that you know in that direction and that's all you think about you basically obsess over what you want to create and have in your life and then of course you have to do the steps of what's necessary to get work but

[01:00:50] Andre: The power of the mind is far more incredible than what most of us even realize or even give it credit for you know because it's our habits and our thoughts and our actions that create our whole life that we get you know so

[01:01:05] Jacob: If you're tired of feeling a certain way or the results that you get in life is probably the thinking that we have day to day it's our subconscious mind that's what influences how you react to everything that happens to you the decisions that you make and how you think and how you feel and every bit of it so once I read that I kind of realized like you really got to be conscious of what you put into your mind and the beliefs that you have every day about your own future and yourself because if you don't feel good about yourself or you don't feel good about your future it's not gonna be good you're gonna be living a mediocre life or you know you got all these problems and it's only gonna get worse then that's exactly the life that you're going to create for yourself right it's so it's a like it's shitty feedback Luther you can get stuck in yeah cuz it's exactly what happens when you

[01:01:50] Jacob: Wake up one day and you're your alarm didn't go off and you're mad and you trip down the stairs you spill your coffee on yourself and your may start saying of course of course this happens to me this always happens to me it starts like compounding yeah exactly what happens your day gets worse but if you wake up in the morning and you think wow it's a great day to be alive you know I'm grateful for all the opportunities that I have and all the things that you know around me and this is what I'm going to create and this is the person I will become and you believe that over and over and over again over time you'll see your life go to a totally different direction right so that's the biggest thing that really changed my life at a young age was just the power of your own belief in your mind your thoughts yeah it's just very powerful man I'm with that what you got me like on the slide edge there's some

[01:02:38] Andre: That stuck with me and it says your philosophy creates your attitude your actions your results which creates your life that's why I like to say your philosophy and how you view life is everything because that's who you are you know just the way that you do things

[01:02:56] Jacob: Starts with how you think of things you know and a lot of us don't really think about that yeah you don't stop and think like **** it's all gotta pass through my mind was a mind you know like what am I saying than here it's I think a lot of people don't really like they don't ever question it so they don't realize like they don't realize that it's hidden um you know no I realize that it's going through them like so me for example like I would have a lot of days where because your subconscious mind 95%

[01:03:25] Andre: Your habits you just keep doing the same thing you know so when you're not like really trying you know I had a lot of things that I just kept compounding and kept thinking about and kept just like refeeding right and you wake up and you feel like it's like oh cool that's like that seems like a cool dream but it seems unrealistic because you're like not feeding your brain the right thing so what I would do a lot of times is I would wake up and I still do this so wake up and put on like Tony Robbins or I put on Jim Rohn or some motivational whatever yeah bro and I went through I mean the last like a year and a half two years like it's 70% of my days I wake up and do some sort of something like that just because I'm like do I get I've had some long way to come back from you know

[01:04:04] Andre: Like I had some darkness that I was dealing with but do now it's like train my subconscious you know like months and months of doing that and now it's like I wake up and I'm like even if I don't have the motivational video I'm like I don't know what **** mindset I need to be in Brougham I'm a winner today that's who I am liking it in you know sometimes

[01:04:20] Jacob: The thoughts still come up and some people know if you guys ever dealt sometimes it's like you got your dream and it seems great and then all sudden Tuesday you wake up and you're like I don't want to die like out of nowhere bro and you know what the **** everything's going great what is happening but uh you got to be Able to insert those like knowing you have your big goal like you guys say like you guys know like we're having this many stores like we're gonna do this like knowing that to always grab on to even when it feels in realistic that's a great grappling hook on days like that but also just like you guys said feeding your mind the right things you know like the books you mentioned any books any sort of like TED Talks and is sort of like things that you're absorbing in the mornings when you wake up if you ever have any like so I think when I run around with on that I guess it's like any like new dreamers like if you got a if you got an idea listener and like if you got a clothing company if you got whatever but you also got some discouragement you got like this

[01:05:12] Jacob: Idea this thing that you want to do like however old you are like I think I could really **** do this thing and like I want to shoot big but you also have this thing that says you're dumb you suck you can't do that you got a you got to change your mind so you got to change what your diet is your mental diet you know start reading some books start checking out TED Talks I'm checking out motivational videos you know I feel like Bethan we always talk about like off you checked out this and checked out this will send each other a few months like books or something that seems like or the cover of it at least yeah dude I think it's super important to train a guy I think a lot of times we like have a diet of a mental diet of like stuff

[01:05:49] Andre: That we're in taking and we don't even realize it like we just check our phones every day and we just check the news every day and we just keep so much negative out there too and so on so if you're not consciously putting positive things or the right things in your mind it's gonna be filled up by something mm-hmm you know if you're not constantly feeding your mind with ambitious thoughts and goals and things that make you excited your minds gonna be occupied by something you know and I figure you got you know you got to live and die anyway you got to think anyway you might as well fill it with the things that you will really care about or that really make you excited or that juice you up and I do that all the time I mean for years whenever I felt bad or you know in a different state I would just turned something on that was positive that would make me think in a new way or give me a new thought or somebody that you know had something good or positive to say because it really empowers you to

[01:06:40] Jacob: Have a lot more of those powerful voices around you and behind you to tell you to keep going or you know show other people's stories of the difficult things that they've had to go through cuz I've always looked at it as like you know no matter how bad you think you may have had life there's always somebody else or a lot of other people that have had it way worse than you have right you know if you think your problems are bad then there's always more people that have had things that are a lot harder to go through than what you've had to deal with and not putting down you know the difficult things that we go through because those are actually important you know it's just it's the struggles that we go through every day and the unexpected issues and problems in crisis that happen in our life that make you stronger you know they make you into who you are but you also have a decision on how you want to react to it you know you can look at it as like a victim standpoint or a bad thing that

[01:07:29] Jacob: Happened to you that you have to deal with or it can be something that is thrown in your way that you learn from that makes you stronger and better you know you can use for your own advantage because you had to go through it anyway you know you got to deal with it one way or another so you might as well make it help you get better yeah it's like now what it's like there it's like the thing happened and then there's their reaction to it right like it's not we accompany them like the thing happened and I'm of course I'm madam upset or whatever it is you know I'm not gonna to follow it but we got to separate here's the thing that happened and here's what I'm gonna do about it right so I like to say like I yeah I went through a lot of stuff going up and I saw a lot of bad things and I hurt in many ways but it's like I appreciate all those times because if I would have never gone through all of the pain and seen everything that I've seen like I wouldn't be the person that I am today no so like he was saying like just

[01:08:22] Andre: Appreciate the bad times you know bad times are always gonna be coming so when they get here you know just try to find a way to get out of that rut regardless

[01:08:33] Jacob: How hard you know you think life is gone for you I like that we're all human you know it's fine to express your oceans not like we're supposed to be walking around all day every day and just some eager state of bliss for your

[01:08:52] Andre: Wife died yesterday you know it's healthy to cry too oh yeah good to show how you're feeling about something or you know remember something or somebody or you know things like that our loved ones that we lose and stuff because you know what happens it's part of being human yeah but it's also how you react to that and what you do afterwards that dictates the results that we get in the end of life absolutely it's every little thing every little thought little action you

[01:09:23] Jacob: Know sleeping in not doing that thing that you think or that you know you need to do or not chasing those ideas that you have in your mind you know everybody's unique and different and every single person can bring something out that's you know awesome that they created it's just you have to just do it right one of the most powerful things that I've ever heard was whether you think you can or you think you can't you're right because it's true if you really believe that you can do it you can do it but if you listen everybody else for the things that tell you that you can't you'll never even try or you'll give up when it gets difficult because you don't think you can do it but if you just don't care or even just acknowledge all the reasons of why you can't do something or why you're not supposed to have anything and just you do it on your own mind in your own self and you just refuse to quit you will get it in the end you know because people

[01:10:15] Jacob: Are rewarded in public for what they struggled for and private is another good way to look at it so you really can't have anything that you want I mean there's people that have came from nothing and created incredible lives and

[01:10:26] Andre: Things for themselves you know there's always somebody that's had it worse than you did that rose out of that and did something better so I don't see any reason why anybody can't have what they really want in life it just takes a lot of work to get it but it takes a lot of hard work to survive if you don't get it too so I feel like that work is worth it too it's like because you realize like the work you separate it from your life as if it's like and then I'll start my life but it's like no the work like if you choose to follow your dream you get to it you get to work in that is your life you know right and you get to you get to enjoy the work you know people think we forget that we can choose that we can choose like you kind of choose your pains in a way it's like you might feel pain in this way or in the other way of not completing it man that's the thing

[01:11:13] Jacob: Beauty there's a lot of opportunity out there especially with the internet today in social media and all the ways they're connected with different people and different business models I mean there's more opportunity in this world now than there ever has been in art the entire human history right so there's even less of an excuse to not be creating the life that you want to get right and it's gonna be difficult you're gonna feel all the range of emotions and you're probably going to want to quit a lot but that's totally normal you know everybody that's made it has always all talked about the same things growing pains but they just didn't give up right if you want something bad enough just you know you shouldn't be giving up on it anyway if you really want it you know you have to be that stubborn with your goals and your dreams in your life that this is going to happen and this is the only route or I'm going to die we're here right or do

[01:12:07] Jacob: This what life do you get if you're not chasing that you know it's not very fulfilling or exciting you know you got to fight for what you want as bat you know more than giving up on what you know the difficult things that are thrown in your way right and you know another thing that we listen to from one of our mentors was um you have to become

[01:12:26] Andre: Resourceful when in lack of resources

[01:12:29] Roberto: And that's what builds a lot of our character up you know because we didn't have money to or anything to start what we've done like this started with 24 shirts of in Rob's trunk you know in high school the money that he saved up from lunch probably gave me like four of

[01:12:47] Jacob: Them but it's those things it's the

[01:12:54] Roberto: Hard times that create the character and

[01:12:56] Andre: Teach you the lessons that you need to learn that make you more resourceful because then when you have the resources you're not just gonna blow it and stupid things or you know waste it because you've had to deal with less and come from that so it really is a powerful thing to come from nothing and learn all the ways of how you can create something out of nothing and then make it into something right you know I think you'll

[01:13:18] Jacob: Be consistently shocked at like how impressive you can be to like a lot of times it's like man six weeks ago I thought that I wasn't gonna audition at all and then Here I am like oh we're in the next step now that things done I'm stressed about that thing you know right I think a lot of people you know you'd be surprised it when you just believe in yourself and just give yourself like I'm gonna **** try it do it you can't get stuck with thinking that oh I don't know how to do this so I can't do it at all things that I don't know how to do that I end up figuring it out like yeah I changed the front-end on my truck this off YouTube you know looking up videos on how to do the brakes and rotors and calipers and all that stuff and going through them a bunch of different times but I figured it out you know building websites and all these different things with business and legal stuff and paperwork and you know how to you know make clothes and schedule events and all

[01:14:12] Jacob: The logistics that go into every little thing like I didn't know any of this going through it but now that I've gone through the process of like learning it's not like you just magically hit a button you just know it and it's like

[01:14:23] Roberto: Okay I got these answers I needed it's like going through the process of learning it and like maybe **** up on some of it on along the way ya know like that learning it is what's important

[01:14:32] Jacob: Right I feel like there's been a lot of

[01:14:35] Roberto: Like expensive lessons we've had to pay for no dad but that's just all part of the deal you know it's like it's not really a mistake it's a lesson you know you had to pay all this money to get to

[01:14:48] Jacob: Figure out it didn't work that way right so we didn't pay to go to college you

[01:14:53] Roberto: Paid for our lessons yeah and that's how we learn yeah did you make you make the mistakes dude and I love the talking about like learning from YouTube I think that's so important that's something that like this will I mean this is like

[01:15:08] Jacob: Some around 30 to 35 podcast episodes

[01:15:11] Andre: Now and that's been like a huge prevalent thing it's like a lot of people probably just because around our age and stuff but and they're like yeah I learned from you to learn from you to learn from you do yeah I called the University of YouTube yeah bro I think that medicine that I learned on you - by I am doing the equivalent of

[01:15:25] Roberto: Travelling to the top of the mountains to like meet the shamans in the monks I feel like with the amount of like information that I learn every day about meditation and in Buddhism and all

[01:15:34] Jacob: These things that I like read about and listen to on YouTube like in you guys the same way I like about what's in your land like something comes up like well we're gonna have to deal with it let's learn how to do it right we have these tools at our fingertips not that it's like I have the magical answer like you still got a **** put in the work like if your dryer breaks just because you found the YouTube tutorial how to fix your dryer doesn't mean it's fixed you still got I just say that because I one day I was super prideful back in the day and I the YouTube thing I spent a whole

[01:16:03] Roberto: Day taking apart my dryer because I can do this like the end the day it was dark and I took apart the whole dryer situation and I was like all right this thing's broken for sure but I know now I know that it was I was like okay I can't fix this dryer but I gave it a try and I I mean I think I like angrily like forgot all of it but I'd like to think that I don't know a little bit more about guys I think that some that Andre and I are both starting to lean towards too is like we've realized we wear so

[01:16:36] Jacob: Many hats like we shouldn't wear all the hats like him and I should focus on the things that we're good at so going on 2020 we're slowly gonna start reaching out to more people who are actual professionals and certain things you know hmm that's another thing don't try to do everything and thinking that you can do it like yeah YouTube will teach you a lot but yeah literally if let them

[01:17:01] Roberto: Do the plumbing exactly yeah don't don't think you need to **** take apart your dryer every day definitely don't mess with the light wiring because you know that's the thing is like as people up at the top it's like you get to a point where it's like well we can't keep we can't continue progressing if we don't you know pass the torch may not be

[01:17:25] Jacob: The right terminology there but like all right like we trust you guys to handle this in the store front and we're gonna start working on these things you know it's kinda you know just a good leader takes care of takes care of even the management you know so like the management whatever decisions they're making is backed up by the leader and you guys are forever growing past that

[01:17:47] Andre: And seeing like what's in it what does it mean to be a leader in our company you know and that's gonna keep progressing well that's how you grow too it's like I remember my mindset at the beginning of the stages and my mindset was this is my company and I'm gonna do

[01:18:00] Jacob: Everything myself you know as I started to feed my mind more things it was more like whoa like can't build an empire alone like when has that ever happened you know you need a team you need the right people on the bus to do the right things for you and you know it's an

[01:18:19] Andre: Effort for everyone to get together and put their minds together just like this you know like I hope there's a lot of minds that we spark out there just by having this conversation I hope so I bet I bet then who was a guy that build the steel company because Carnegie yeah Carnegie like I remember like listening to a podcast I know yeah Dell Carnegie

[01:18:44] Jacob: Yeah it was Dell Carnegie so I don't know if it was David I just know the name Dale Carnegie came together my head someone anyway like someone's like how do you build like the number one steel company in the world these like I know nothing about steel he's like but I just knew how to get the right people to work together right so it's like you just got to get the right people to work together and the right people on the bus to help you grow the vision that you created yeah the fact that he became the number one steel company and probably one of the richest mans ever to live in America and like make the biggest impact on America it's like dang okay like you

[01:19:25] Andre: Knew some ****

[01:19:26] Jacob: Yeah it's almost like but it wasn't the

[01:19:30] Andre: Steal **** yeah right it about the it ain't about the product as much as it is about like the why

[01:19:38] Jacob: The why really like the why of your company like if someone walks in and they say what's the why of your company like you guys are me like well **** alright and you're gonna start talking they're my **** okay I get it you know what I mean like if you can keep that Y throughout the whole thing I was thinking about this simon Sinek is somebody who I ever though yeah you know we have a couple his books in our shop oh dude he's fantastic he I love it excellent yeah I've read a couple is to you he has a couple lectures but he talks about knowing your why I'll shoot I forgot what I was gonna say about it exactly oh okay but so he was talking about way back in the day he did a talk he did a talk for Apple and they did talk for Microsoft mmm-hmm or Microsoft first and then Apple and then he was back in the day when he had the Zune remember the before the iPod came out it was like the Microsoft Zune resume yeah thinking it was like

[01:20:37] Andre: Not it was cool it was good but it wasn't like it was before I applaud so obviously iPod like the iPod video blew it out of the water but right before that yeah so he talks about how he was in this he was in this cab drive and he's a like the guy who's driving is an apple guy and he's like I couldn't help it I had it so he goes I just I did some work for Microsoft and they gave me this Zune it's a lot better than the iPod like he remembers saying this cut like in the end the guy driving just goes I have no doubt so I'm and so the yet so Simon said it to the driver and works for Apple Simon was essentially saying like hey I did this talk for Microsoft they gave me the zoom like it's pretty cool it's better than the iPod and the guy instead of being like it's not better than that but he goes of that I have no doubt and

[01:21:17] Jacob: It's a it's a it's kind of this

[01:21:20] Andre: Thing like and then he talked about how the difference is in their company it's like when he went and talked that Microsoft was constantly concerned with like after that like how do we be better than Apple like their goal like UC said he went to their conference their meeting or whatever and they're always talking about like how do we beat Apple here so we're gonna beat Apple and then this presentation this comes up when he has a presentation we're gonna beat them with this way and we're gonna be this other company with this and then he said he went to the Apple company and they didn't mention any other companies they just talked about like here's what we're gonna keep doing to continue like what we believed in you know like we said on the first podcast like I like us like it's not about being better than anyone it's about being the better version of ourselves you only in competition with yourself exactly could why do you why would you write there focus your time on what other people are doing when you can focus your time on what you could do better for yourself don't waste any time

[01:22:15] Andre: Thinking about anyone else or what they're thinking of you either you know just do you bro yeah your dinner plate like subbing in other people's food right Freddie it's getting cold I

[01:22:28] Jacob: Think Jay cool had like a rap line about that like something about like your what you're too busy watching the people's places your dinners getting cold you know and this I don't know I think that's thing and you guys do it super well is you just like it like it's not that you guys have like you know competition that you were going against or whatever you're like trying to like getting certain Lane and can directly compete against anybody but it's like you're just focused on your **** like we're pushing our vision that's the thing it's like it was never about like me trying to be better than anyone it was me like this is what I want to do and this is what I'm going to do like I'm not saying that's what Apple didn't just saying yeah exactly I have no doubt in my mind that we'll make it to where we see ourselves going one day that's the thing you got to see it in your mind before you can create it in reality now if you don't know where

[01:23:14] Jacob: You're going you're gonna keep going in circles so it's about having the vision of where you're going and realizing that the journey is not going to be easy well adjust to every level you get to

[01:23:25] Andre: Because there's always a new level like

[01:23:29] Jacob: Unless you just let it die then

[01:23:32] Andre: You're dead whenever you choose that that ain't an option I mean it's like if I quit I it's like you're like it's not an option it's like whatever happens when I dude like it's number one I came up with a company in high school like I always used to tell myself that like I till I die that's the thing I tell I die is not just a Shane it's actually as meaning mine it I tell I is all about just committing to your

[01:23:56] Jacob: Vision and realizing that you're gonna do whatever it takes to get you to where you're at until you're in a coffin right that's I till I die well I mean if you commit then when something comes down the trail when it comes down like crazy big problem happened it's kind of like a relationship right like when you get married it's like just cuz a big argument happens does we're gonna get a divorce figured out like it's like bro bud you gotta set that star you know you gotta be like we're doing this like it's like shits gonna get crazy hard we know that we don't know how hard it's gonna get we don't know what's gonna happen we're gonna have problems that we are so not **** prepared for but we're gonna get through them because we know it like you got to set that value point that **** that North Star you know you guys definitely have done that well and it comes across and everybody who walks into the store gets to experience that yeah all right hey let's switch it up again real quick if zombies break through that **** window right there what's your move okay I'm the fastest

[01:24:53] Jacob: One out of here you think you're fast one out all right well I'm far this one that's the goal well I probably don't have to be the own you know the fastest you just gotta be the first one to get out probably break a mirror and then stab one in the head and they hell through that one block so I'm from the rest of I'm coming in and then we all run we all run yeah then we got like all right what do we do next and then you try to put stuff on the doorway so no one else can get in and I think II think we lock it in down here I think getting on a cruise ship is probably the best or space crap yeah

[01:25:28] Andre: Maybe aliens coming back in do you hear about the kind of similar to the virus thing but so with the coronavirus over in China just a time date where we're at

[01:25:37] Jacob: Right now and if you guys heard about that but there's a there's a cruise ship who like there's a guy he literally was just talking about your ego you tell me it's a cruise ship that's like they're like there's significant or something yeah there's like a couple thousand people on it's been stuck since I think February 3rd under quarantine all the people are stuck in their ruins oh I would lose my **** mind and there's like 70 people that have been infected with the virus I

[01:26:03] Andre: Can't imagine that those rooms are very big I've never been on a cruise ship myself actually but they're definitely not that big yeah they're small yeah they try and pack as many in well and also I saw a picture and it's like they could see the shore like they're like we're right here yeah and they said that it was kind of a anxiety filled experience when you see all the ambulances sitting over there on the you know on that on the shore and yeah that would be that's crazy that's a

[01:26:27] Jacob: Real-world thing yeah scary yeah I mean never know what's gonna hurt them there's been some bad viruses out there you know the Black Plague that killed like a third of the world's population yeah I was a pretty rough deal so god it's weird to think about that we could have like massively we just massively have a bunch of people dying like what was the I mean I mean I don't know a ton about it but like even Indians back in the day didn't it wasn't there like it wasn't the Black Flag that like took out a lot of the Indian people that when we came over here well a lot of Europeans brought over different you know bugs I guess that people over here hadn't experienced before their immune systems weren't built up to it and you know the

[01:27:11] Andre: US military gave a bunch of blankets infected with like smallpox or something to the Indian people and kind of like a biological weapon yeah in a way pretty

[01:27:21] Jacob: Messed up you think they did on purpose oh yeah oh it was yeah there's so much of that crazy stuff in history yeah they don't talk about all that stuff in history class why didn't they teach that to us in tenth grade I don't

[01:27:33] Andre: I don't understand that you know we're obviously the good guys and read do anything wrong it's not pretty crazy to think like that's something that like as you get older it's like wow that's kind of like I don't know how I feel about that like truths you know like what you read in your history book in high school like I guess I get it but it's not the truth it's best a little bit differently depending on what country you're yeah look if you read like my like my ninth grade history book this chapter and then you go to like you know China and read their ninth grade history book like it's probably gonna say a very different story about the

[01:28:06] Andre: Right name when just the news media in different parts of the world is always different right because it's owned by certain people over here and certain agendas are trying to be pushed out and then different things around the world you're a different side of the story in different places it's kind of a crazy thing to think about well now our news is even like if you watch this news network it's telling you completely different things in this news network and even just in the same city the part like the person next door to me it could be listening to completely different news network about the exact same situation right like and it's like **** these people they suck and then I'm listening to one that's like these people are awesome and it's the same situation yeah so weird live in a very weird world for news yeah but I think that if there was some zombie action and I don't know it'd be hard if

[01:28:55] Andre: It was like I always I always liked these situations where it's like okay they're zombies but you got like three days like I always like where it's like you got for the sideshow yeah like so it's like you get some secret like you know like some text like it's like hey bro like I don't also saw him buy this okay you know I work for the CIA I love you bro like um like zombies are coming you got three days like you know like that situation is easier for me I think that I would just mostly panic if there were zombies coming through the window and I would just like think I'm tougher than I am and probably just get bit by it or something about Windows so they're gonna be no they're gonna be alright boy wait what about that if you had three days where you can prepare like I can go like before anybody else knows though that's the thing is you got to be able to tell the right amount of people but not everybody because you're gonna cause mass knots Astari got time to prepare you might as well just take as much supplies up and get this away from the

[01:29:48] Jacob: Population areas as you can that means more zombies you would run higher populations like the woods all right better I would I would for sure you probably have less zombies out there than you would in the cities that's true there's yeah you know more humans at well you wouldn't know what's going on like what if the whole city like it's been two years and they're like oh we're fine we figure that out the same

[01:30:11] Andre: Sandwich for three months yeah ya know

[01:30:14] Jacob: Maybe look for planes flying around or

[01:30:19] Andre: The government came in yeah you'd find

[01:30:23] Jacob: Bring a solar phone charger so you can charge your phone off the Sun yeah if your service comes back on you know you can go back but if you go so far out though you don't really have service like if you're doing it right you're I cannot somewhere where you have service you got it wind up that's a thing - it's like you would have to build like a fort and like all this crazy **** probably have to come back for more supplies - but would it yeah that's the thing what if you built the fort tune like it's not as sturdy as you want it to be in like you don't have the supplies to make it survivable yeah you guys you got a poor you second of them for its you gotta take a part of dry the forest Dom become then you're really in trouble yeah once those guys come around it kind of depends though if it's that we always have my have it's like the ward Wars II zombies like the ones that are it's just **** crazy yeah I'm just scooting at **** you know right I thought about that before yeah if they can run then that's really gonna sell there'd be nothing scarier than a

[01:31:21] Jacob: Zombie that can run yeah just sprinting at you yeah how long does it take for them to get tired like do they just keep going until they're like stuff falls off like the leg just falls off right and if they don't have any sort of like well I'm tired and it's hurting my feet my feet hurt let me know how they walk around but in Zombie movies they figured out with no breathing air but they just walk around yeah we just watched a warm bodies and they have like towards you have you guys seen that one warm bodies no little Netflix it's not it's not new it's a few years old but it's a good it's an it's a nice movie it's like a scary time it's kind of like an irony it's essentially like from the it's essentially like this guy who's like your typical like mid-20s guy and he's like yeah so I'm a zombie now here's how it is it's kind of like that yeah but at the end they start to like at least starts like become more human and stuff and they show like the light in their heart starts to shine oh yeah that'd be ****

[01:32:26] Jacob: Up we're like we got three years deep of just like we've adapted to this killing zombies life like we don't see it like oh that's my mother's body but like I know she's zombie I can't even feel anything just killer you know like we got like to that place of like there's just Ami's desert yeah you just kill him but then they start waking up and there start like alrighty we're feeling better now let us say you like wait till about one-inch brains now yeah are you sure about that yeah because I always love the movie I

[01:32:55] Andre: Am Legend with Will Smith you know that's a classic see those don't those are all whole nother low I wasn't those on these actually the main world and I would hide her oh man

[01:33:08] Jacob: Yeah the demon they kill me fast

[01:33:11] Andre: It's weird to think that they cuz like you know it's just a movie but like they get smarter technically but it's kind of it's smarter in a different direction that humans getting smarter like it's not like they're like they're getting more brain cells and they're like learning I mean I guess I don't know this **** movie but like they're learning in like a weird different way than us like they're not progressing towards being more human they're progressing more towards being more like whatever the primitives are vibing virus they have become uniform it's super

[01:33:39] Jacob: Interesting alright boys hey we are getting up here a little bit in time is

[01:33:45] Roberto: There anything that you want to make sure that the world knows don't quit don't quit whatever it is that you want to do in your life you can do it just don't quit you know you can have it if you're just stubborn enough to not ever give up on what you want keep going you've gone yeah because there's always so many things that'll come up that will you'll doubt yourself or always an endless supply of obstacles and you know hard times or whatever the economy might

[01:34:15] Jacob: Be you're what people might think or you know your what your relatives or friends or whoever's opinions might be of what you think that you can do but to a certain point you just have to does not acknowledge that just do what you really feel is that you want to do with your life because you can have it if you just don't give up absolutely yeah just don't

[01:34:37] Roberto: Quit I'll have anything for this one

[01:34:39] Andre: Would be appreciate your struggle because struggle is what builds you how do you think diamonds are formed they're built through pressure you know and eat to become the diamond and not only that takes a lot of hard work to get there so just realize it's going to take a lot of work and your journey is gonna be more of an up-and-down roller coaster than you think it is right because once you get to a certain level you think you got it down then you reach a new level one it only gets that much harder and you just think life's almost over or your journeys over but there's always a

[01:35:20] Jacob: Solution and you'll eventually find it

[01:35:23] Andre: It going and appreciate those times

[01:35:26] Jacob: Right guys when you get to the right level or the level you've been wanting to reach you're gonna be like damn like I knew I could do it so he's going keep going I love it boys hey it was a **** pleasure we're gonna have to do this more often right yeah combo with the two Of you it was a pleasure thanks for coming over and thanks for giving the world a little bit of you brains tonight for having us thank you for letting us

[01:35:59] Andre: Be here and well my second time here so

[01:36:03] Roberto: Yeah there'll be plenty more my friend we'll be back everyone all right take

[01:36:08] Jacob: Care of yourself listeners have a good rest of your day don't care of