Episode 041 with Brandon Cruz - Views From Consciousness and The Great Neural Net of Humanity

[00:00:06] Intro: Hello and welcome to the junkyard hello welcome to the Junkyard Love Podcast I hope y'all are very well I hope you taking care of yourself I hope you loving yourself I hope you're learning about yourself I hope you're educating yourself about yourself over taking a look at your thoughts I hope you taking a look at your mind I hope you're listening to your body I hope you're

[00:00:54] Brandon: Looking at your situations and your life in a holistic sense and also I hope that

[00:01:02] Intro: You check out today's recommendation which is Closer to Truth on YouTube it's just a YouTube channel Closer to Truth Lawrence Krauss is a guy's name he just kind of so he travels around

[00:01:12] Brandon: Asking like existential questions to you know neuroscientist and big-time meditators and biologists and people who attend like all these consciousness conferences and super fascinating great

[00:01:26] Jacob: Stuff really nice scenic if you enjoy podcast it's just people sitting there but they have they do it outdoors in beautiful places so it just has this extra aesthetic the camera is always panning I know it's just great Closer to Truth if you enjoy the essence of the

[00:01:44] Brandon: Upcoming conversation the exploration of

[00:01:48] Jacob: Consciousness and the cosmos and

[00:01:50] Brandon: Mathematics and these sorts of things

[00:01:53] Jacob: Philosophizing life check that out closer truth on YouTube let's get rolling with the episode please take care of yourself I just hit record Minutes it's like we're trying to prove any points and be like this is exactly what we're going to talk about we're just comes and it's Jake with the Junkyard Love Podcast Welcome everybody welcome carry it on all righty what's going on guys Brandon Cruz with wild productions again to see Jake for the first time in months and I gotta say It is a serious pleasure

[00:02:28] Brandon: Absolutely I absolutely love my fiancee and my

[00:02:33] Jacob: Roommate's but guy time it's like yeah

[00:02:37] Brandon: Much needed

[00:02:38] Jacob: Yes much needed you know bro time I mean really just any interaction with friends taking direction at all yeah just people I'm happy I talked to myself a **** lot and at some point it's like I need somebody to bounce this stuff off you know yeah it's uh it's weird when you

[00:02:56] Brandon: Start to like actually think of your

[00:02:59] Jacob: Co-workers as like I didn't really like them when I was like kind of seeing them every day but now I kind of yeah I kind of miss you kind of annoy me a little bit Terry he's such a dick but I missed that dick dude would you just talk to me right now and just yeah let me scoff and walk away well somebody give me when Terry gives me at work every day and you better wait on put a wig on and act for me like

[00:03:27] Brandon: It get mad at Lacey you're like you've been so nice to me it's driving me through the roof yes sir you reenact everyone that I'm with at work so I feel like I have purpose again I mean I could imagine that like if there are a house full of actors somewhere probably in California just like having a bunch

[00:03:47] Jacob: Of props in sets and just being really bored there their days are probably like insane like they probably wake up as like somebody's just like I'm a cowboy today bro and you if you an actor to you just play along yeah you just playing along yes this is a rodeo right now yo that would be a fun way of life like live as if you're in a sitcom kind of I don't get why sorry I don't get why a lot of move that thing oh you want a brownie I'm gonna I'm man twist it a little bit right there with that it sounds nice pop it that's a good game right there I

[00:04:22] Brandon: Actually just found that in my house as we're like doing our little spring cleaning they're not allowed to be contacting other people and touching them but you're just handing them an object now you bop it I had the funniest breath I had the funniest idea of like a

[00:04:36] Jacob: Video where because 420 had passed well obviously while quarantine is going on and I could imagine like some

[00:04:46] Brandon: People meeting their friends and like kind of breaking the quarantine thing but they're still kind of sketchy about coronavirus so they decide like to load

[00:04:57] Jacob: A bowl and there's like handed off and they're like you know take a hit its 421 wha and they take a hit and they're like oh **** actually I don't want to get Corona so you gotta kind of gotta clear that whole balling yourself oh and or like they like have like a

[00:05:16] Brandon: Massive like cross joint or something

[00:05:17] Jacob: Yeah and they're like ah I forgot like that's all you man you guys and you're just like a lightweight and you're just like the vision gets all

[00:05:31] Brandon: Interdimensional yeah I feel like the laughs oh like a hole oh **** and I sign up for it's like when people talk about like you have like smoking weed with horn massage before like bro I smoked weed I smell smoke dogs weed and I **** died like you ever hear that I've like I there's occasionally people like Wiz Khalifa Snoop Dogg like yeah Tommy Chong or something I think he was mentioned like we're had everybody's like yo I smoked with them and it was so next level it's not even though it just gets to a point where it's not even fun it's like it takes the whole it's

[00:06:12] Jacob: Actually like it I mean the same goes for like drinking with friends that like get really messed up no like you know go

[00:06:21] Brandon: To the bar and they're just getting

[00:06:22] Jacob: Right shit-faced you're like yeah That's

[00:06:25] Brandon: Not me alright that's just no that's a whole nother level where I just I know I'm not gonna feel good you have to do theirs once in a while I feel like the last I don't know I really never like to get **** up like there's like once in a while where you give it to yourself and you prep for it almost like you only get you're like alright Robin I've been you just taking Metamucil every day I've been drinking a gallon and a half of water because I know that I'm gonna have to take three days off work or whatever especially my stomach today to make sure I had enough room to

[00:06:52] Jacob: Right you know fit all these shots in it yeah you're prepping for it yeah it's interesting well so I wanted to so we're kind of talking about like the vibe of the coronavirus so like but originally I was it's so it's such an interesting thing because things are you know

[00:07:14] Brandon: Nonlinear and linear a lot of times in how there's such thing as kind of like a vibe like how things perceived so like a lot of the like D platforming is like stuff that happened in like 1995 that is like it was not offensive back then that a comedian said say and then they bring it into the year 2020 and they're like this is so offensive and it's like no the vibe like the way our understanding as a society of how things work has changed since then so you can't like back then it wasn't insane for this person to say that whatever so I was

[00:07:45] Jacob: Comparing that to the let's say March

[00:07:48] Brandon: For my area for our area I feel like it was like March 14th was like everybody's still going out everybody's still like having a beer we're like yeah the ground virus exists like I don't know what's going on with it seems crazy like oh there's a couple cases here but like it seems like it's mostly in China whatever like it's like you're almost ignoring it and then all of a sudden it's like I don't for those news cycles are just like everybody like took it seriously or there was like some sort of news cycle or news particularly story particular story but uh March 14th to March like 16th was just shut down the whole know it was like off so it's really interesting to see so just using that example like how quickly things change and then thinking like so two weeks ago

[00:08:28] Brandon: Like I wouldn't I wasn't this is the first time that I've had somebody I'm gonna had my friend Eric for a podcast outside and it was like I feel like I kind of addressed it but I wasn't fully present I was like nervous about it I was thinking about the virus think about how close we should be getting like all those sort of things but now the vibe is I wish I had a

[00:08:48] Jacob: More intellectual 4 - yeah yes Jesus but

[00:08:52] Brandon: It's just lifted like it's like it like there's this **** attitude there's a lot of people who have the whole time been like I don't believe any of it like and then there's but now there's there's just this like well we've got to carry on like we need each other we need human interaction like so I feel like for me and it feels weird to talk about like I feel like I'm gonna like get in trouble or people are gonna like judge me or it's hard to have my own opinion on this which is another weird thing that I'm noticing that's like everybody kind of feels like they don't really want to unless they're one of the people who are really loud and like expressing it's not **** real mmm a lot of a lot of the other people like I don't know like I just want to like respect it and like let's just wait it out but so where I feel on it is I

[00:09:41] Jacob: Have like select people that I'm going

[00:09:44] Brandon: To now see mmm I have like a few people who I know aren't in contact with a shitload of other people as far as the podcast goes I'm gonna just kind of make it to where it's a beeline into the door like we try not to touch it too much we try to just like see some artists they are yeah like so I'm trying to like tiptoe into it I'm

[00:10:04] Jacob: Not trying to like just well I mean

[00:10:06] Brandon: Obviously I'm trying to break the **** law for sure like so I don't know what area I fall in like I'm not specifically trying to like just follow that I'm just trying to be intelligible about the whole thing trying to I'm trying to in the end back to the vibes just what I just want to meet there like I want to have the conversations at the time where the vibe

[00:10:26] Jacob: Is like where the like what do we what do we think about it like we don't have to like act like we're not like still a little nervous still a little scared we don't have to act like we're like we have to go back to work we're exactly where we are so like where we are on today what's it what's the date me mmm 13 12 11 10 May 13th then I'll try to post this one in a more timely manner than I normally but it's the vibe is we've chosen a few

[00:10:56] Brandon: Friends a few people to see and be

[00:10:59] Jacob: Around and I'm kind of curious for what comes next what where is where is your arrive and what's your perspective on like the vibe kind of situation that I was diamond if you have a better word than vibe please I love five minutes like my favorite word so I'm sure vibing out it's just weird cuz there's

[00:11:19] Brandon: So many different variables to what is

[00:11:22] Jacob: Going on and the amount of confusion and

[00:11:26] Brandon: The decisions and confusion stem from all the way from the top like

[00:11:35] Jacob: Every day it seems like the people who are running this country tell us something and then the next day it's something else and then you know it was don't ever wear a mask because you could be breathing in the bacteria now it's always wear your mask you know and it's this constant influx of misinformation

[00:11:51] Brandon: And information and it not necessarily can be their fault but it also can be their fault because it's like you're telling some people to do something and then telling them do something else and half those people are like oh **** you guys like you're lying to me like Who am I to trust if these people are telling me what to do and they're wrong and my people are dying and then you got other people that are just like scared because

[00:12:21] Jacob: They have no idea what to do they're just like I'm just gonna sit inside and just wait this thing out then you got people who just like completely don't believe in it and don't care and then

[00:12:33] Brandon: You got like the people who are just like kind of like you and I ish we're we're like trying to test our foot in the water and like see if like turning there's a smart I think we do need to start implementing smart ways to interact with each other like we're both young I don't leave the house hardly

[00:12:56] Jacob: Ever and I social distance from so many people I don't go and go to the store and go do this and go see family and all

[00:13:05] Brandon: That stuff like we keep our distance so I feel like mice for myself I'm a safe bet to hang out with the interactions aren't gonna spread and that's another thing is the people that don't believe that this disease exists it is a very real and physical disease it actually exists it's an it's something that my roommates a

[00:13:27] Jacob: Nurse she's seen people die from it so we don't know I mean we know as much as we can know about it but this there's a lot that we don't know about yeah that's where we're just kind of clueless together as what it is like it I don't

[00:13:42] Brandon: Know I don't personally I've never been someone who like needs to point blame I suppose but blame is kind of a

[00:13:51] Jacob: Way you know when you could find somebody who is who you could point a finger at and come consume your time talking about like oh it's these peoples fault or this person could have done better or blame is a place of comfort like for our you know um you know more primitive mind like it's like some people do not like maintaining the Unknowing which let's say nobody does

[00:14:16] Brandon: Like nobody likes to do not know what's

[00:14:19] Jacob: Gonna come next like you know we're all kind of in this position of like what the **** is gonna happen like oh I know

[00:14:25] Brandon: What that are completely like I'm up for

[00:14:28] Jacob: The randomness but for the vast majority of people we all need a story stick to man and it's you know i've you know and I've had to remember that with myself what I've also had to have patience with myself when I'm interacting with other people because I have to remember like this person is just scared they're just scared that's the root of this they're scared just as much as I am you know maybe more maybe less whatever like they're they have different information maybe they have the same information they have different life experiences so this makes them a little more unsettled like you know someone who has been poor as a kid they're a little

[00:15:06] Brandon: More stressed out about maybe going

[00:15:09] Jacob: Hungry again and someone who's never like felt that you know I mean like everybody has different life experiences we're all at a different level and what really you

[00:15:17] Brandon: Know honestly pisses me off is that we

[00:15:20] Jacob: Have a WWE **** sideshow going on for our political **** no I'm not trying to dive in a political stuff it's just like I don't know I just you know I see I

[00:15:30] Brandon: Work I work audio work for like student

[00:15:35] Jacob: Organizations and we was first started up in Seattle I was working for an organization and there was kids in the room that were under 18 and their framing of questions to the adults in the room was there they're terrified man like they don't know they should be able

[00:15:51] Brandon: To look to somebody at a podium not to lie to them because nowadays we're **** smart you can't just be like everything's gonna be fine if you just believe like there needs to be explanations these kids are smart they understand what's going on you can't just **** them but I don't know I to

[00:16:05] Jacob: Me I don't know man we just need

[00:16:09] Brandon: Somebody who's a leader we need people

[00:16:12] Jacob: Who are leaders we need you know this is where the American is taught to look up to the president and in this way like I'm not saying this is like he signs this and this is his absolute duty but I'm just saying that's what happens like as a kid you should be able to look up to leader and he kind of gives you some answers that aren't **** he kind of tells you like hey you know we don't know fully that's just the truth and we're really trying our best to figure it like he helps comfort you like when I was at this conference these kids were asking the adults like I just was in the room hearing it and they're terrified and it pisses me off and I wish that we had adults in the **** room is its death another summarize I wish that we had adults in the room for our political situation like these people there's other people that are suffering besides the ones who are pissed about suffering

[00:17:00] Brandon: Like the I just there's young kids who are looking up to older people for answers I'm sure of it and the older people are just acting out ridiculous **** well you have the media notoriously now is being labeled as a like rage bait clickbait sort of a company that is just trying to entice

[00:17:27] Jacob: The president you know politicians

[00:17:30] Brandon: Forcing a narrative and just kind of

[00:17:34] Jacob: Extracting as much of whatever they're trying to extract from you know the confrontation conflict a fear into the

[00:17:43] Brandon: American people's eyes whatever the case may be excuse me that's going on you're getting

[00:17:51] Jacob: A reaction from a president that is more than willing to play the game you know with these reporters with all this stuff and meanwhile like you said you have

[00:18:07] Brandon: People that are seriously worried like

[00:18:12] Jacob: My kids don't eat because I don't make enough I work two jobs I don't make enough to feed my kids they usually eat at school like I need to know what's going on so that they can then begin to eat again like I'm trying my best it might not be like that in every situation sometimes there might be an abusive father there might be some crazy

[00:18:34] Brandon: Situations going on but there are people

[00:18:37] Jacob: Struggling right now and we need a

[00:18:40] Brandon: Serious leader we need a person

[00:18:44] Jacob: Who is a person you know for the longest

[00:18:47] Brandon: Time I can't I can't even think of

[00:18:50] Jacob: Besides like maybe Obama and bits like

[00:18:54] Brandon: Where I felt where I wasn't watching a

[00:18:58] Jacob: Robot talk you know and that speech of I will do this for you guys and you will

[00:19:05] Brandon: Be happy American you're saying like

[00:19:08] Jacob: What they said it's good to say rather

[00:19:11] Brandon: Than like speaking yeah creating new words with your mouth as a human that move and advance us forward as humanity

[00:19:18] Jacob: And people know **** like there are so many of us in the world now there

[00:19:28] Brandon: The internet is full of just

[00:19:32] Jacob: Information and you can't escape it by

[00:19:36] Brandon: Having a certain cadence of talking and

[00:19:39] Jacob: Tone of voice and things like that it's

[00:19:42] Brandon: We literally can see and feel emotion like humans see and feel emotion like we're supposed to do you need to be a

[00:19:49] Jacob: Man you need to be a person in charge a leader in a community you need to be the **** king of a tribe you need to literally take on this and be like hey this is tough we're gonna get through this we're doing

[00:20:06] Brandon: Everything we can like bear with us

[00:20:09] Jacob: Let's go I think that I mean you know

[00:20:12] Brandon: Just our particular president and it's not like just picking on trumpet particularly but just seeing the inability for us to actually interact so if you watch the press conferences I saw just this is a headline that I'm repeating I did not watch the whole thing so I might be speaking with but taking the situation to expand what I thought the person the journalist the reporter asking him the question asked kind of like a dumb question and I framed it from a certain perspective question and pissed him off and he walked out this is what I heard

[00:20:41] Jacob: Yesterday but so what we have is not only someone who doesn't know how to handle those things and a way of

[00:20:52] Brandon: Handling them but like the what's happening I think is outside of the words themselves like and that's what people don't understand like Trump wasn't mad at exactly what this woman seems to us said it's about he knows

[00:21:08] Jacob: That he knows right what does that mean

[00:21:11] Brandon: He knows it's a feeling of vibe that he knows that she's actually kind of just trying to be snarky so he gets mad and goes off and says the wrong thing so it's that gotcha journaling is what they call it a thing but like so we're not

[00:21:24] Jacob: Actually on the surface we have this WWE thing happening where we're in this in the arena and there's fans cheering and we're using the words themselves

[00:21:32] Brandon: To make headlines to sell to make these

[00:21:35] Jacob: Things to make fear tactics to make a

[00:21:40] Brandon: Drama for people to interact with

[00:21:42] Jacob: But somehow what's being unseen is

[00:21:49] Brandon: There's a lot of people should know that

[00:21:51] Jacob: That reporter was also trying to get the person on the podium to react a certain way and when we have these assumptions when we walk up to each other with these assumptions this is kind of something that I've referenced you this will make sense the garbage analogy or like the homeless personality like you walk up to your grandma with open arms your shoulders are back and you're smelling like you don't cover your nose kind of but if you walk up to a homeless stranger you're not gonna be like ready to hug the guy you're gonna be kind of put off you don't know I'm he's a stranger yeah right so your vibe when you walk up to your grandma and the vibe when you walk up to a homeless person you've never met what's happening is they're all our political system seems to be it's such a **** broad a bunch of homeless people ya know but they're interacting at the they're interacting at the I'm treating you as a homeless person before you even say anything but they the news headlines and

[00:22:47] Jacob: What they're feeding the public is the words themselves so there's two things going on the same thing when you're driving on the freeway you're going 75 and you just kind of get a weird kind of feeling and you look over to your ride out the window and there's a guy looking at you and he's going 76 and he's passing you like you sense it's a weird we don't know more than different **** big old metal boxes traveling

[00:23:07] Brandon: Down a freeway like the vibe

[00:23:11] Jacob: Again the feeling the thing that's like

[00:23:14] Brandon: Really reality is like being ignored and we're just listening to the words so like what needs to happen in those situations that we have leaders who are willing to like dude we need to **** look at these things sensibly there needs to be somebody who can come in and be like Trump you literally need control of your emotions right like in who knew like if only it was that easy right but there needs to be some sense waking sense making or some sensible way for

[00:23:44] Jacob: Somebody some sort of like intelligent

[00:23:48] Brandon: Not just one **** Messiah person like just a new way of thinking a new not a left and not a try and not anything that opposes any of those things but like hey guys our **** is so advanced at this point in the way that we're all interacting but not interacting we're all talking over each other and at each other and not and through each other in all these weird ways there needs to be some developed democracies what it needs to be it needs to be developed it we're running a system that's an old system we're

[00:24:17] Jacob: Running on computers that are like breaks you know what I mean like we haven't changed the political system ever to evolve to what it needs to be

[00:24:27] Brandon: The presidency is not now something that one person should be tasked with responsibility for the u. s. alone is

[00:24:40] Jacob: Massive markets massive trading massive worldwide conflicts massive everything and we're supposed to be the

[00:24:49] Brandon: Leaders of the world apparently we're

[00:24:52] Jacob: Supposed to be checking every country in the world and making sure that everyone is being safe and doing the right thing and you know not making nuclear bombs and **** like that how are you going to medieval not enslaving their people how are you supposed to have one man speak

[00:25:09] Brandon: For all the actions of the US make decisions for all the actions of the u. s. understandably that it's not just what he says goes but I mean he took out

[00:25:22] Jacob: A terrorist without anybody knowing just one day just woke up and were like a terrorist is blowing up could cause a World War 3 you know it potentially

[00:25:33] Brandon: Could have luckily it didn't but how is

[00:25:37] Jacob: One man that gives a nod on something

[00:25:42] Brandon: Like that not expressed to the US where

[00:25:46] Jacob: We are private citizens that elect

[00:25:49] Brandon: Public officials hmm but yet they're acting private and we're acting public it's the it's completely switched around

[00:25:58] Jacob: And more to where they work in

[00:26:03] Brandon: Secrecy and we work right out in the

[00:26:06] Jacob: Open yeah dude and it's so crazy that we the way that we have formulated things is people who talk up about it are kind of like the rebels and kind of like the like the conspiracy theories in a

[00:26:18] Brandon: Way right like it like the like the

[00:26:24] Jacob: Don't ask questions thing is we're in a

[00:26:27] Brandon: Time I think that's like boiling over like we're just we're just too **** smart like Millennials and younger no it's a dude there's just a lot more information now and if you are doing noir smarts abroad work yeah it's a it's just hard to ignore the fact that sorry to cut you off know the fact

[00:26:48] Jacob: That there are no reliable information

[00:26:53] Brandon: Sources like right what used to be your

[00:26:56] Jacob: Bread and butter for information CNN

[00:26:59] Brandon: MSNBC whatever the case may be they're

[00:27:04] Jacob: Constantly wrong you've got independent journalists on Facebook Instagram YouTube you know patreon whatever it is

[00:27:12] Brandon: Saying their side of the story and I mean like most people are like scrolling on Facebook and I don't know if you've seen it but there's just constant articles of like big bold like headlines

[00:27:26] Jacob: Of like us confirms to possibly declare

[00:27:34] Brandon: War on China and you're just like what

[00:27:36] Jacob: The **** like scrolling you're like holy **** are we gonna war with China yeah and it's like no it's just clickbait but

[00:27:44] Brandon: Out of all the clickbait like I'm friends with all these people and they're friends with me so if they share it then their friend sees it which I see it again and now I've seen the same post thirty times one of them when you begin to trust it to anyway yes we do this innately you begin to trust it like **** if like thirty people right now just posted that we're going to war with China maybe well that's how we've grown to work we want to make sure that we're in on what's really going on and it's part of our how we formed civilizations like you've got you've got a bunch of people gathering together in if you accidentally listen to the cuckoo guy you're gonna die next year in the winter but if you listen to the smart guy who other people are like okay he

[00:28:29] Jacob: Seems to know what's going on like that's what like you know Trust is it's grown so let's talk about

[00:28:39] Brandon: Like let's branch this to truth in this

[00:28:44] Jacob: Situation let's go so trying to

[00:28:50] Brandon: Think so what we know to be truth so when we were growing up when we were in high school do you remember like when you were reading like history books for example like I think we're talking history of is really like the story that

[00:29:01] Jacob: You read let's say this was written in

[00:29:04] Brandon: 1940 like originally the rough draft was written in 1946 for this book that we're reading in 2003 right and then it's like reprinted and then finally it's released in late 1963 is the final version and then it's ruin reprinted and they kind of like retell the same stories maybe they I don't know how they'd do this how they make history books but they tweak it and write we so

[00:29:26] Jacob: What happened as you well you're a few years on army so when I was going through school I was like we were in high school by the time phones were like pretty much everybody's got one in like we still it was like a lot of people still had to like pay for internet so you didn't really click on your internet icon like you accidentally like you would try to not ever it would be an accident forensic fuck-ups cost me ninety eight cents so but the thing

[00:29:49] Brandon: Is so that the difference in our reality say when I was that age and kids now the history books and again I haven't been to high school recently I don't know my **** history books say for sure but the history books were saying this is how it happened and this person was in charge in Columbus was this in Lewis Clark did this and the Indians they

[00:30:07] Jacob: They're totally fine with us being here we didn't kill any of them and whatever you know like history books that don't tell the actual truth like here's what seriously happened because the person writing the history book is on the side that the narrative is on yeah they're right a positive narrative right but the but the thing is like a lot of our everything was built on that side so so the difference the difference being how do young kids like trust adults and trust these things that they're reading in and ever-changing like they get out like you could be in you know let's say ninth grade and you're like your teacher is telling you about what happened with Columbus and blah blahs maybe it's the same stuff like as a smaller older town same stuff that I learned 10 years ago they haven't changed it let's say and like the kid can be like well actually I just looked on Google and I found like 15,000 people who actually disagree and they said that like we actually killed all those Indians and or you know like whatever like here's the real story so like I wonder like what's the boiling point of that sort of thing like truth

[00:31:11] Jacob: Like kids aren't going to trust the older people they're gonna be like I'm not gonna listen to the way that you're telling us how to how to run like what if we throw it what if younger kids accidentally throw out baby with the bathwater because they're like you guys are just making up so much **** that's biased see that you don't see I think I

[00:31:29] Brandon: Think the this position that we're in now is one of the most important positions that we could be in back then

[00:31:38] Jacob: When you read a history book that was

[00:31:41] Brandon: Printed and for 50 years was the premier

[00:31:46] Jacob: History book of all the knowledge in the u. s. to teach all the kids was that Christopher Columbus came and shook hands with the Indians and had a turkey you know yeah mobile that sort of thought is now wiped

[00:32:02] Brandon: Away because we now know the facts and

[00:32:05] Jacob: Skepticism has crept its way in if you

[00:32:10] Brandon: Went from a straight one fact one

[00:32:13] Jacob: Thought one way mindset to now no maybe it was actually kind of like this or maybe it kind of maybe went this way and they actually slayed all the Indians and stole all the land you're gonna have

[00:32:27] Brandon: Conflict between both sides you're gonna

[00:32:29] Jacob: Have people that are strongly supportive of the old ways and strongly supportive of the new ways that's where we're at now we're in a mixing of knowledge of no this is the way it is and no this is the way it could be or could potentially be and I

[00:32:49] Brandon: Think with the amount of knowledge that is being put out right now that is so

[00:32:55] Jacob: Untrustworthy or it is just so hard to believe I think that's gonna breed people to go out and be like you know what **** that mainstream is not going to put out some real news what actually went down then I will and with that comes a new

[00:33:15] Brandon: Breed a new generation of reporters a

[00:33:18] Jacob: New generation of you know people who

[00:33:22] Brandon: Are insightful on certain things you know what I mean like boxing went out of style for a while it was a huge

[00:33:34] Jacob: Huge thing before UFC came in and

[00:33:39] Brandon: Kind of wiped out boxing and then boxing was like we kind of got a kind of got to

[00:33:50] Jacob: Do something different but at the same time we got to go back to our roots because when he was dying out they were they were finding out that there were they were calling fights they were you know placing bets on fights for entertainment purposes to maximize revenue you know they were saying like we're gonna let blah-blah-blah win this

[00:34:10] Brandon: Fight because now we can have him fight

[00:34:14] Jacob: This next guy that'll be a mega fight and then if he loses to him then he can rematch the guy that he just lost to because they did an epic fight and it was a split decision it was really close and people caught on to that and they're like holy **** like we can't trust that's that's it's set up and it looks set up and it looks fake and so now they're like jumping back into it and they're just like alright this is real boxing this is like we're going to ESPN now like we're not even doing a pay-per-view thing like we'll do paper review for the big fights but ESPN will show it to the whole world for free boxing is back you know I think that's the same thing if that kind of makes sense with the information era that we're going through is we're in the mud right now but we're gonna crawl out of it and we're gonna get we're gonna shower off and we're gonna get super clean and we're entering a new age of technology which can lead us into the next conversation so okay so fill me in with

[00:35:21] Brandon: Fill in the listener where I leave in blank so I'm just gonna quick summary Elon Musk was just a couple years ago and Joe Rogan essentially he announced Neuralink which is a microchip in your brain and well not exactly a microchip in your brain but essentially this it's within the next year for one said that will be the first one in a human skull they drill a little thing around the side of your head and they peel back a little part of your skull there and they put a little thing in and then it seals back over it cuz it's kind of like a cork for your brain and it's like flush back over that um and what this does is it I mean what it would even say like

[00:36:03] Jacob: Cures it brain diseases cares brain

[00:36:05] Brandon: Diseases is what he claims is most

[00:36:08] Jacob: Survivors and dementia and you can walk again if you're a quadriplegic and **** like literally if it's controlled to your brain you can learn how to read

[00:36:18] Brandon: So what they reactivate yeah so what they do I'm pretty sure that they use sound frequencies and I think that it's the same technology that like Nikola Tesla like the Tesla coil I think it's similar like the frequencies not entirely sure could we talk on my but somebody proofread me on that Jamie but Jamie the like it so it's like I don't know how it determines like okay so you don't have movement of your right arm well it knows we know now where the spot

[00:36:45] Jacob: In your brain is that correlates the movement of your right arm like so you get in a car wreck and you hit a specific spot in your brain they're gonna be like oh yeah that's why your left elbow feels that you know it's all connected your whole body is connected to your to your brain obviously and you could see the lack of signals yes and electrical signals and so it's supposed to stimulate those yes we're in supposed to reform them I guess like it reforms I don't know pathways is it the correct word cuz that's like neuro elasticity but man I'd like it's hard to wrap my head around but essentially we're going to have like dementia Alzheimer's like this is stage one so

[00:37:22] Brandon: If you have so here's an example that Elon used on the podcast was like it's a you have seizures and say you're about to do the thing right before like your body senses that you're about to have a seizure like so whatever things that happened in someone's brain right before they have a seizure we now we've studied that we know that we know what goes on so now we have a thing the neuro-link that when they put it'll sense it'll know as soon as someone's like they're walking around they have the normal day they're not any different but they have their brain just cancelled out a seizure or something so like they're walking around and their body starts to seize or their brain starts to have that first initial thing the neuro-link sends a sound frequency or a frequency and don't quote me on the sound part that negates it or opposites it or whatever more informs that whatever and it turns off the seizure so like someone's gonna bond yeah like do this like it's just crazy that changes like everything in our world that literally if he's claiming to

[00:38:25] Jacob: Cure multiple chronic diseases

[00:38:30] Brandon: That are responsible for claiming the lives of so many people you have to be

[00:38:38] Jacob: One of the greatest engineers that this world has ever seen no I said at one point you know at one point in time one device can then negate all the negative

[00:38:51] Brandon: Effects of disease and right and that's

[00:38:54] Jacob: Just stage one he's just saying that you know disease and carrying these things is the first phase but now we're

[00:39:04] Brandon: Going to integrate it into a full brain implant where you can then use the

[00:39:10] Jacob: Access of the Internet via Bluetooth and

[00:39:14] Brandon: Become a superhuman cyborg decide early

[00:39:18] Jacob: Yeah and so in his argument now is that

[00:39:21] Brandon: You are already a cyborg which I can't disagree with abso I cannot disagree with him listener if you have a cell phone you're a cyborg you don't leave the house without idea it's not physically attached to you I mean Oh unless you have an iPhone why wait basically it is physically attached to you because if it's above 50% which it highly is

[00:39:44] Jacob: Above 50% of people having a cell phone

[00:39:47] Brandon: In their pocket at all times mm-hmm you're a cyborg you all your

[00:39:52] Jacob: Information your life information is put

[00:39:57] Brandon: Into this device mm-hmm the music you like it pictures that you have throughout like you're storing your

[00:40:06] Jacob: Physical memories into this thing you

[00:40:10] Brandon: Are physical memories that's an interest is a cool memory it's not something that's like real that's like a new thing we have known with pictures physical memory physical all the time memories and short-term it blows my mind that you can capture life like snapchat in short-term send it real-time and your friends across the **** globe can open it up and see what you just sent mm-hmm like real-time right that's

[00:40:44] Jacob: So crazy and if you don't think that's

[00:40:48] Brandon: That's kind of straying off I just

[00:40:51] Jacob: Wanted to say I think it is so crazy that people that think that you know

[00:40:59] Brandon: That the meditative woowoo like 10-4 Hat

[00:41:02] Jacob: Sort of kind of people are crazy and like you know they think they're weird tree huggers they're like they think things are connected you send little words in a text and hit okay and hope

[00:41:16] Brandon: That through the **** right weird how does he give your **** do that ether where that your friend is going to get this message yeah it really ether and if it doesn't happen immediately now you're so pissed through the university but ether yeah through nothingness like you can just receive **** and like send it and you

[00:41:36] Jacob: Can like your location can be

[00:41:40] Brandon: Act from a satellite in space like dude

[00:41:44] Jacob: Like just think about like the

[00:41:47] Brandon: Impossible has been created mm-hmm that

[00:41:50] Jacob: Seems impossible well dude to me it seems like it's like at what point do we allow it to change as much as it does at

[00:42:02] Brandon: What point do we make society match up

[00:42:04] Jacob: And become UFC rather than WWE well at what point do we and not just political system but like so like it's hard like fully grasp like so think of like the nature of the self let's say like you can like learn about these things like oh okay like what oh I'm not like a person riding around behind my eyes like what do you mean like where is like Who am I like I was I was saying earlier the example like what's your ego right what the ego

[00:42:31] Brandon: Started when let's say where the thing

[00:42:34] Jacob: After monkeys where in evolution we came after monkeys however the **** that happened put a aliens alien suit sound

[00:42:42] Brandon: Convinced dude I think that it's I think that it was a drug-sniffing photos mushrooms I think we started technically eating mushrooms and it changed our consciousness is Stoned Ape Theory yeah yeah I love it I think that's kind of where I'm at right now but um so anyway so at one point when we start getting smarter we start using language because say you're a monkey and you're

[00:43:00] Jacob: Trying to communicate with the other monkey across room you have a banana and you're trying to tell them well then you're pointing at it or you're you know you're shaking it whatever it like you're trying to signify this is the thing I'm talking about it's a thing so you created a thing to make civilization

[00:43:16] Brandon: And like make a community like advance the evolution of consciousness really so you started naming things you picked up a banana Oh banana and that noise you make with your mouth means banana in you and you pick up a pointy rock and that's what you used to kill fish and you and you call that rock and so the person across from you the monkey crossed me goes rock well and you nod or whatever and he knows that thing sounds like a good song right yeah

[00:43:44] Jacob: Yeah so eventually once you start

[00:43:46] Brandon: Naming things right you have to you get to a point where you're pointing at a fat banana rock and then you point monkey across from you and you're like what are you what are you and so you

[00:43:58] Jacob: Have a name and you're Jeff

[00:44:01] Brandon: And from there Jeff here monkey Jeff you

[00:44:06] Jacob: Monkey from there you know so that's so that's how like if you think of like what's the ego what's the like who do we

[00:44:16] Brandon: Think we are so rewinding back in time from what I was saying but so at what point do we actually start accepting that because like so like that fact right that's something that a lot of people can't comprehend that's a little something that is probably seen as false or something that

[00:44:32] Jacob: Doesn't you know I'm click to a lot of a lot of ways of thinking the way that we run the world is as if that is untrue that's what that's what I'm getting out the way that we currently run the world the way that we do like the like Donald

[00:44:45] Brandon: Trump ego for example like he's the best example of like how an ego mind who

[00:44:50] Jacob: Doesn't realize that he's not existing behind his eyes he's not a person riding around in his brain a body like of him running the world so like at one point in civilization in society do we start living as if we're not like we can't not have an ego I suppose but I think with

[00:45:10] Brandon: The amount of comfortability that we're

[00:45:15] Jacob: Feeling is making the physical okay right now we live in a physical world like that everything is physical if you say Donald Trump you're gonna think of like his wispy ass hair is blonde hairs wrinkly face even image that pops up and yeah you have an image of who he is and

[00:45:34] Brandon: Not a feeling of what he possesses or

[00:45:38] Jacob: Like Edie you know what I mean it's I

[00:45:42] Brandon: Just think it's so crazy that people

[00:45:46] Jacob: Can't see people for who they are and and most people would be like you know what no like I see them for who they are but realistically like if you cut off my arm I would then not have an arm it is just an attachment of myself of this body that I'm trapped like it belongs to you because your

[00:46:09] Brandon: Piece to it but it's separated from you it's if you cut it off I no longer have it but I'm still alive it's still me like wit where are you yeah so you're not fit you're not physical you're not because if you were you probably a piece of you would be with your arm and maybe it is I don't know but like maybe it is I don't know but

[00:46:33] Jacob: Like you can lose an arm and still be you know and you can lose your legs and your other arm and both your ears and your nose and your lips and **** and like you're still you I think we're

[00:46:45] Brandon: Gonna get to a point in life where if this Neuralink really goes to that

[00:46:49] Jacob: Level which I believe it will because technology is just advancing to a point where humans don't even ask what they

[00:46:58] Brandon: Want from life they just accept what the

[00:47:01] Jacob: New technology is with open arms we're just a ball habits is all we are yeah hobbits that we're trained by somebody that's not that didn't knowingly look out for our best interest at the beginning and I think that with

[00:47:14] Brandon: Knowledge that's what stuff is with knowledge comes a lack of emotion if you ever met a scientist if you ever met a astrophysicist or something like that a lot of their talks a lot of their ideas

[00:47:31] Jacob: Come with not a person behind them there

[00:47:35] Brandon: They come with knowledge behind them and

[00:47:38] Jacob: An idea and you have to separate the self from the idea because if you get consumed in the idea and you make it personal then things kind of go wacko

[00:47:48] Brandon: Conversation relax yeah and you

[00:47:51] Jacob: Can't like if somebody rejects your

[00:47:55] Brandon: Idea for this scientific finding or

[00:47:57] Jacob: Whatever the case may be you can't have

[00:48:00] Brandon: Your identity attached to that idea

[00:48:03] Jacob: Right and I think that's where knowledge

[00:48:07] Brandon: Is like a lack of identity and I

[00:48:10] Jacob: Think if we keep pursuing that then we

[00:48:12] Brandon: Will become like this identity this species of like what people keep saying it's like the aliens of like a big head in small body cuz we don't need to beat each other up and let everyone know who's a big dog in the yard we're all just like mega smart and like don't need room for sex because we don't feel any urge to like physically we express ourselves from our biological a were lower consciousness yelling we're

[00:48:42] Jacob: Heading towards that direction or going that way and right it's well so do you and believe in do what do you think about the singularity do you know if you are that singularity I've heard it I'm not I'm not super keen on it either I think it's essentially what the thought is like the final one human consciousness and it's like this weird thing I think that it's I believe some

[00:49:06] Brandon: Religions like don't like it I think that it's like a bad thing but um

[00:49:13] Jacob: But I think that it's a

[00:49:16] Brandon: Misunderstood thing more than thing so so my opinion is that whatever we will be considering what we will end up calling the same Larry I think is happening within our lifetime for sure but just like I think it's gonna be like within like five years so branching to how quickly time and how

[00:49:32] Jacob: Quickly things move now so like neural link is gonna be within a year I think so think about how much **** that

[00:49:41] Brandon: Speeds up like we're going to we're not

[00:49:45] Jacob: Just going to have this wonderful uh

[00:49:47] Brandon: Technology and then like people who are

[00:49:51] Jacob: Poor are still gonna have to like go through the shitty chemotherapy virgins you know like the it's the best we have while we're trying to figure out the cure for this thing that you're suffering through you know the like the

[00:50:04] Brandon: Shitty prescription drugs that people

[00:50:07] Jacob: Are just like that are destroying their like physical bodies like hurting their you know liver and kidneys and those sort of things what is the future with neural link existing so like I say we're having this podcast and we know there's 700 people there are 700 people who have neural link and it **** works like at what rate art is our entire civilization like yo you know it could fix grandma like she can literally remember us it's like a kid dude it's Steve could walk again like holy **** he's been in wheelchairs in Tallaght so-and-so oh it could literally give you vision back if your corneas have like deprecated what you saying like they like if you need to it will rebuild your corneas if you don't see like holy **** and that's technology without any yet I think it changes a lot it's uh I think it's a lot different than what people assume it to be as far as like

[00:51:04] Brandon: The fact of the whole world getting it

[00:51:06] Jacob: Everything it's uh it's kind of it's gonna be like Tesla you know the cars are expensive not the average consumer can buy them they're amazing

[00:51:16] Brandon: For the world they are the first

[00:51:19] Jacob: Electric car there's luxury that is

[00:51:22] Brandon: **** from the future if you ever

[00:51:25] Jacob: Ridden in one it is the coolest driving

[00:51:27] Brandon: Car I've ever been in it is the fastest car I've ever won dude they're so cool they're beautiful they're amazing they're out of our reach they're out of the everyday person's reach and I think that's what's gonna happen with an ER link at least the first stages are gonna be like you gotta have some money to

[00:51:46] Jacob: Have any of these effects happen to you at first and then you know once the watch record them oh sorry I'm good broad going to cut off any yak you go once the newer updates come out and the newer models come out and things like that I think they'll be like passed down like an old iPhone you know ya know

[00:52:07] Brandon: You got the one brother din accuse your Alzheimer's would have **** up your left leg we don't we haven't figured out I got a wimp it's just rest of your life - beta switch have you seen the movie

[00:52:18] Jacob: Elysium I was just about to think about

[00:52:21] Brandon: That is that the is that the movie with that name Matt Damon has their plug in the back of it yeah that's the one that's literally what I was there today and I were talking about that it's a man in a fantasy world it's like wow

[00:52:33] Jacob: That's crazy but it's like oh **** so that's kind of what I was pointing and I think is this gap that's going

[00:52:42] Brandon: To be created very quickly between the very rich in the very poor I mean Elon Musk is the kind of guy who is not stupid and he's aware of those sort of things so he's going to do the cost of materials to

[00:52:53] Jacob: Create this sort of thing it's gone so

[00:52:56] Brandon: So it's so much smaller it's less material like so massively producing these things like I'm hoping that we can

[00:53:04] Jacob: Have the amount of time let's say that the people on the ground like in the movie Elysium mm-hmm there's gonna be some sort of like there's hella people with knurling covers help people with these magical whatever **** is scientific curing their disease they're living up in the sky though because they're the rich glass there's gonna be a huge gap between the really poor and the really rich is what I'm getting yeah yeah I'm hoping that people like Elon

[00:53:30] Brandon: Seems like he has like a good you know my intuition tells me that I don't know

[00:53:36] Jacob: It seems like he's going to try to lessen that gap the amount of years that there is a huge gap I hope that it's you know four to five years and it's like okay yeah there we were struggling for a couple years and there was a lot of people who were like literally still dying from diseases that people are walking around cured from but I'm hoping

[00:53:53] Brandon: There's yes time do you believe in do

[00:53:57] Jacob: You believe in ur link as or the progression of technology as a way in which humanity should go and should

[00:54:06] Brandon: Progress to without hesitation or

[00:54:09] Jacob: Without sort of that because you're a

[00:54:12] Brandon: Very spiritually enlightened person

[00:54:16] Jacob: You are connected to the earth you meditate every day outside you know you are very consciously aware of people's emotions and feelings are you nervous that this could be an avenue that takes the human out of a being I'm not nervous about it but I think that's what's happening well so and are you on board for that weirdly we really kind of but not like because that's what I want like I just I just think that logically

[00:54:48] Brandon: So if you see us as organic bootloaders I think even Elon has been I think he's the one who said that like if you see humanity as Organic bootloaders like we're always just trying to progress like have you studied Graham Hancock do you know Graham Hancock oh I've heard of his name so he is essentially someone who has been trying to prove like mainstream media for lack of a better term there that like he's like studied the pyramids and like how time worked and how the ice age really worked and he's like hey there's a cycle that happens every stone so million years and it's going to happen soon and we need to **** get the **** off the planet something I don't know if I don't know if he believes we should got the planet but essentially he points out that we

[00:55:34] Jacob: Haven't thought long-term about our history like we had we don't fully understand history and I think how do I runs out I don't want to put ideas I don't want to misspeak on what leads him

[00:55:48] Brandon: But so check his stuff out he's just kind of like revitalized it's like what actually happened in history like some of his some of his ideas are pretty far-fetched I'm not saying that I believe every single one but he's got a lot of great info so but so might a lot of my connections are I think that if you detach like I was saying like a live in a world where we don't have ego at the minds where we don't have we're not attached to the life that we have because we know that it ends we enjoy every second because we know that in some amount of years maybe right away maybe instantly maybe in 15 years we're going to die so we live a society that

[00:56:23] Jacob: Doesn't accept death we tried to paint a

[00:56:27] Brandon: Story as in there's a magical better life in this after death or we just kind of ignore it we kind of just try to maximize right now it's on the other side yeah and so but if so say we weren't doing that right say we like if you just look at if you take the

[00:56:45] Jacob: Personification of humanity I guess as a

[00:56:49] Brandon: Weird thing to say out of the equation and you look at like what is the earth doing what's happening what is it

[00:56:56] Jacob: Like if you didn't know what it was but you all you had was you're sitting in space with a notepad and you're like studying it for billions and billions of years and you're just looking at the earth and this might be naive I don't know you're like what is this **** doing eventually it's like okay it's turning it green and it started and then all sudden you know you see what like flowers or you start seeing different things pop up and like what used to be one big landmass one big chunk over the billions of years it starts to do different things and it formulates an atmosphere and it starts to pop up like the fish somehow get legs and they can walk out you know the evolution like if you're watching evolution on the earth happen if we take ourselves out of like ourself like Brendan and Jake out of it and I'm just observing what the earth is doing without inserting myself as a human on it seems like Earth is doing this

[00:57:47] Brandon: Thing like it's like its opening its peacock wings but then like it's peacock wings may only stay open for you know a few hundred years and then it withers back and completely dies and burst into flame in life and in

[00:58:04] Jacob: Recreation and **** just restarts right so I think if you think I think because if you look at what consciousness is doing to humans as just a being like there's no other we assume that there's no other like animal that really has a consciousness that thinks as advanced as us or as like because there's no other animals that are like we need to leave the atmosphere and like why is that a thought or have like what is what is consciousness trying to communicate through humanity rather than consciousness is humanity if you just think of what is consciousness trying to say through humanity because humanity is the highest level it's separate entity yeah and if you if it's so the way that I see and this is where it loops back to your question Brandon is consciousness being okay if you think of

[00:58:55] Brandon: Consciousness as just the earth like cut

[00:58:58] Jacob: Like Gaia like the earth and life it is itself what we know to be alive it is we are that and it wants life we know

[00:59:09] Brandon: That consciousness earth wants to live because that's what it's always been doing it's creating different species and it's creating different animals and it's always life like a gazelle hides from a lion because it doesn't want to die is favored as life and we have them like again if you like speed up time when you're observing the earth do this it looks like it's like they slowed down like the gazelle and the lion but if you just speed it up it's just this quick little dot on the on the earth that's just doing its thing yeah so if we look at like what are humans doing and what's the thing that they're doing I think that humans might actually be trying to get off earth because earth might be doing another like withering thing soon you so I think

[00:59:49] Jacob: That we are consciousness but for some reason in a sack of meat if I'm right we're trapped in sack of me and I'm not I don't know how a hundred percent confirmed I feel them is kind of observing this now as we're talking about a bit but a if we see if we see ourselves as not just the universe consciousness but where earth the planet particular like Whitley cuz there's some crazy connection to that itself you look at us as like where the earth is just one of those little did the wishy flowers those dandelion was she flowers and like it's gonna blow eventually like it's some force some something is gonna blow on that earth and the little seeds

[01:00:34] Brandon: Hopefully sprout out throughout the

[01:00:37] Jacob: Universe and plant more little seeds of

[01:00:40] Brandon: Earth throughout because that can be

[01:00:43] Jacob: Able to withstand right because they have new knowledge yeah you in buy seeds on other Earth's I mean like let's say us going to Mars so we now that we're on Mars we have the entire consciousness the entire knowledge of an entire Earth lifetime like because we not only have our hundred years that were on the Reno 60 or whatever the **** it is we have all the knowledge that all the other humans have told us in like books and an informational in the internet yeah so you have if you think of consciousness as the entity that started on earth as far as we know started you know probably big bang is probably more specific I don't I just don't know but if you think of us as the earth yeah I think

[01:01:26] Brandon: We're where the Alan Watts says if you observe the earth we thought it wasn't doing anything it was just rocks he's like but no wait on second thought it's peopling it's peopling he sees

[01:01:37] Jacob: He says that and I was like oh that I kind of make sense you know and what are the we take we take responsibility for the peopling but we're just the consciousness riding around in the peopling and I think that if we detach

[01:01:51] Brandon: Ourselves from that and it sounds like

[01:01:54] Jacob: Gripping emotions and humanity out from

[01:01:57] Brandon: What it may actually be but it's it sounds dis sensitive to humanity almost in a way in to think of us as just a consciousness that needs to escape earth but I think we might be like we're not kind of on a path of killing ourselves for one yeah but yeah it's just

[01:02:13] Jacob: Kind of fighting super-crazy thought

[01:02:19] Brandon: What if from the beginning you say that

[01:02:25] Jacob: It is highly plausible that we came from

[01:02:28] Brandon: Apes that took the idea is that eight

[01:02:33] Jacob: Took psychedelic mushrooms or psychedelic substances they were just like enhance technically yeah enhance their cognition and created abstract thought and things like that but for anyone who has taken mushrooms DMT or

[01:02:47] Brandon: Some sort of psychedelic you understand

[01:02:50] Jacob: That you're faced with separate entities

[01:02:54] Brandon: Or conscious thought that seems beyond you that speaks to you in a way that is extremely profound in a way that you've never thought before it's like it's a higher than experiences playlist it's which you should because you would just be like whoa I mean I'm taking a lot of random drug I mean one time I think I did LSD but it was just a different night we had gone going on but yeah so what I was thinking is maybe there is a

[01:03:31] Jacob: Certain consciousness that says this is super high talk but there's a certain consciousness that the earth has within itself or the universe has within itself that is embedded into the earth could be

[01:03:45] Brandon: In mushrooms or whatever

[01:03:48] Jacob: Then used animals like monkeys as a host

[01:03:53] Brandon: And began to coincide and coexist and

[01:03:57] Jacob: Use that back and forth psychedelic

[01:04:01] Brandon: Enhancement mmm and with a combination

[01:04:04] Jacob: Of evolving species and now we've gotten so deep into it that you can tell that

[01:04:13] Brandon: We are a weird combination of this human

[01:04:18] Jacob: Thought and human I don't know that this different this definitely deeper level of structural thinking and abstract thought and creativeness and also we

[01:04:33] Brandon: Have this very animalistic

[01:04:37] Jacob: We're always wanting what's best for our

[01:04:40] Brandon: Survive our immediate survival not necessarily someone else's to the point where it tricks us so we don't even realize it that we're doing it exactly it's an equal mine it's an urge and when

[01:04:53] Jacob: You are faced with someone who is very enlightened with themselves and understands that there's this you need

[01:05:01] Brandon: To wake up to this separation of your

[01:05:04] Jacob: Animalistic self and your conscious self you know of you know I don't know if you've felt it which I feel like you have oh yeah I mean I told you how obviously by the way you live and by the way you think and articulate yourself there's two sides of you there is a very animalistic side and there's a very conscious side and there is a body of you that just is innately you that you just kind of live your day

[01:05:35] Brandon: To day life like but there's a clear

[01:05:38] Jacob: Divide between the two and I it feels like a host situation to me kind of because it's a shark doesn't necessarily know a lot of the times that it has like those little things swimming on its side and it's you know that

[01:05:58] Brandon: Little creatures like eating off all the

[01:06:02] Jacob: Bacteria or all the bugs that could be harmful to the shark and you know behind him but he's never looking behind him he's always looking in front of them for the things that's going to ensure his survival you have to look backwards at yourself and be like what is or what is me what is helping me what is harming me what is I mean what and then what am i

[01:06:29] Brandon: What's going on what's going on here yeah and not just like I'm here to live and eat and sleep and **** he says who

[01:06:36] Jacob: Knows who why you know what I mean like it's interesting that there's you know well what okay so what do you I think we should stay in this direction I don't think of it I'm like this drives

[01:06:58] Brandon: Neuralink so what is okay so going back to Neuralink in what it

[01:07:07] Jacob: Changes in our day-to-day like obviously the in this the thing with new technology is in our heads what kind of thing like oh it's out and then all of a sudden in an instant everything every how's it and we can get it like it's not like that who's gonna be a trickle down but we are it's such a time where this **** is so fast it's so fast like

[01:07:28] Brandon: It's unbelievably fast right in so I'm just curious I just think like the gap between I don't want to keep defaulting that but like the gap between the people who like I mean because

[01:07:40] Jacob: Because there's a lot of people and I'm not saying there's anything not a damn thing wrong with them there's people who don't like they're just in Alaska living they have no TV and they don't know what the **** going on they don't they're just living you know I mean like they're just you know and I could yeah that's just their way life right so how do we how is the world going to coincide because right now we have this weird world where people where people

[01:08:03] Brandon: Are arguing and killing each other over presumptions they have of each other that aren't actually true how do we have a world where it's not presumptuous

[01:08:12] Jacob: There is your 85 year old grandpa Billy

[01:08:16] Brandon: Is literally talking to a **** cyborg

[01:08:19] Jacob: That's 17 years old like he's delivering

[01:08:22] Brandon: His package and in my cyborg I mean of

[01:08:24] Jacob: 17 year old boy with microchips in his

[01:08:27] Brandon: Brain with silicone data in his

[01:08:31] Jacob: Brain that is you know that I mean

[01:08:33] Brandon: Cybernetically connected to the cloud

[01:08:36] Jacob: Right of data that is this hive mindset

[01:08:40] Brandon: Of everyone's collected information into

[01:08:43] Jacob: One odd conscious subconscious not

[01:08:48] Brandon: Conscious thing just it's just knowledge

[01:08:52] Jacob: It's just knowledge that's it's nothing else you know all right it's

[01:08:58] Brandon: It's something that you can just tap

[01:09:02] Jacob: Into yeah like what is it's just really hard to envision the gap between here and there right it is but it still

[01:09:14] Brandon: Blows my mind to this day that the

[01:09:17] Jacob: Knowledge that we already know the

[01:09:20] Brandon: Simple facts about history and things

[01:09:23] Jacob: Like that are known how to do

[01:09:26] Brandon: Finances how to file your taxes like you have to go to school for that and a lot

[01:09:36] Jacob: Of people get ripped off on becoming a

[01:09:39] Brandon: Doctor when most people know like there are doctors out there and there are people that know how to teach what goes on in the human body and yet

[01:09:50] Jacob: They're charging people's life's work of mm-hmm everything they earned in debt onto this

[01:09:59] Brandon: Person for information that is already known by people it's right yeah it's free knowledge is free knowledge is absolutely free it's me saying hey the sky is blue and you go the sky's blue the sky is blue

[01:10:17] Jacob: Mm-hmm holy **** the sky is blue

[01:10:20] Brandon: That's knowledge right there right if I told you this beer bottle was transparent or translucent or whatever

[01:10:28] Jacob: It is says and you're like what's translucent no you could see straight through it right oh it's transparent that's what it is yeah that's what it is oh I didn't know that now I do that's what that's what college is and that's what people are paying their entire life's work for well so even before that before college I mean I talked about kind of the breakdown of communities on an individual level think about and this is kind of a storybook fairy tale sort of version in a movie hallmark situation but you know you're like gosh I'm making these cookies and I've been living on my own for two years now I can't remember so I'm gonna call grandma and grandma how long do I put these good I set the oven to but she's gonna tell you exactly and whatever but like nowadays I mean just cooking some cookies you're like I'm gonna look on Google because it literally takes five seconds compared to calling grandma and eating that I mean like so although so imagine that situation where everything is just simplified like we're just cutting out other people everything is simplified and where we are kind of like taking the situation and amplifying it in every way like information like we're kind of

[01:11:45] Brandon: Losing the need to interact with each

[01:11:48] Jacob: Other because all your questions all

[01:11:52] Brandon: Your wonder which is what makes us want to walk up to each other and wonder what that person is about oh they're not going to hurt me like what's happening here I think but you alleviate

[01:12:04] Jacob: The need for like communication I guess

[01:12:10] Brandon: Oddly it obviously is probably a

[01:12:14] Jacob: Conspiracy at the highest level but right it seems so weird that we are in a time

[01:12:21] Brandon: Like this where technology already forces people to look down at their phone if they're sitting and standing in line at the DMV or whatever and just waiting they don't interact with other

[01:12:34] Jacob: People there they're secluded - what makes them comfortable they phone themselves and they're like I don't want to talk excuse me I don't want to talk to anyone now you throw an

[01:12:46] Brandon: Infectious-disease in there and you have

[01:12:49] Jacob: People like I was saying before covering up their mouths so you can't see any facial expressions from people you're

[01:12:57] Brandon: Taught to stay at a distance lock

[01:13:01] Jacob: Yourself inside for however long we've

[01:13:04] Brandon: Been locked inside for on hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and days and it seems like they're

[01:13:15] Jacob: Trying to integrate a life in which

[01:13:20] Brandon: People are becoming like that will be

[01:13:23] Jacob: The norm of like being secluded being by

[01:13:28] Brandon: Yourself and having everything gifted to you is going to be enough for life and to take it even further as we go and

[01:13:38] Jacob: Divulge into technology and new things

[01:13:42] Brandon: And ways of life like technology is so so nuts because we see life as like if

[01:13:53] Jacob: You were to think of dimensions near like well you can go twelve dimensions deep like if you were this and make a

[01:14:01] Brandon: Guru or whatever and then you have the

[01:14:04] Jacob: Maker of Microsoft saying I can plug you

[01:14:07] Brandon: Into 36 different dimensions the VR

[01:14:12] Jacob: Headset that has all sensory sound touch

[01:14:15] Brandon: Like you won't even know you could I

[01:14:18] Jacob: Could tell you that I'll give you a

[01:14:21] Brandon: Lifetime worth a gladiator warrior's life you'll know the feelings you'll know the pain you'll die you'll wake up and it'll only be two minutes of your life ten minutes of your life ten hours of your life whatever the case may be and you're gonna wake up and be like what the **** I just lived my whole **** life oh I lost my kids oh no you

[01:14:43] Jacob: Were just playing a game chill out remember hey Brandon remember watch something what are the odds that's not exactly what's happening right now it could be you know what I mean - like that is the direction we're moving in you know it's like from Rick and Morty **** it's some Rio is exact real possibility of like coming and people don't understand like they're still stuck in this physical world and live I think that's a little bit more of the older generation because they don't really understand it but like they can

[01:15:09] Brandon: Literally like my little brother was

[01:15:12] Jacob: Telling me he bought a oculus rift hmm thing there's no room in he said his Netflix app on there it's like you have your little joysticks or whatever and you're looking in that in the headset

[01:15:26] Brandon: And he clicks on Netflix and it takes

[01:15:29] Jacob: Him to a secluded lake with a campfire in front of him and it's crackling ooh and there's a levitating massive screen

[01:15:40] Brandon: Above the lake that is illuminating the

[01:15:43] Jacob: Sky and all the trees around him and

[01:15:45] Brandon: It's playing his favorite movie on top of this lake as he's sitting in front of or behind a kiss was real he did this is

[01:15:53] Jacob: What oculus does right now this is what

[01:15:57] Brandon: Oculus does right now he can watch you

[01:16:02] Jacob: Can watch whatever Netflix show above

[01:16:04] Brandon: This floating levitating massive movie

[01:16:07] Jacob: Sized screen of floating above a lake

[01:16:12] Brandon: Well the stimulus do we so I haven't done virtually Audia is either of I so but I've heard from people they're like dude no it's real like you like if you're walking on like an edge like you like won't go to the edge I get scariest foot I've known my little sister I've done a rollercoaster one mm-hmm and I had **** you not I it would it started off taking off just like a roller coaster and it's all

[01:16:41] Jacob: Vr so it's like they could make some

[01:16:44] Brandon: Like ungodly drop that's like whoa I'm we're about to take off and the machine simulates like what kind of Timothy it to end tipping and things like that so we tip and I literally

[01:16:57] Jacob: Slammed my head on the back when we started falling down cuz it started tipping and I looked down and I was like oh **** we're taking off like down and it felt like from what the feeling felt like my stomach dropped my like the thing leaned forwards on my chair was forward and I hit my head in the back because I was trying to lean back and it was so real it was so real and the wind was blowing in my face from each direction and it was just and

[01:17:26] Brandon: This is the very beginning stages of it this is where the this is like the PlayStation 1 oh yeah this is the shoe that they're selling to kids like think about like how advanced the technology really likely is yeah on the level of the government or military is funding a lot of this **** for whatever reason like training example holy **** they already have they've already released no dad training sorry to cut you off again no they've already released that 5g it's not gonna coronavirus I'm not gonna go into five grade now they're gonna take my vid for

[01:18:01] Jacob: How fast 5g is they're allowing doctors

[01:18:06] Brandon: With like extremely good

[01:18:10] Jacob: Trauma doctors to go via virtually to

[01:18:17] Brandon: Connect the some gloves or some sort of

[01:18:20] Jacob: Thing to a robot that's in Afghanistan

[01:18:23] Brandon: And work on soldiers that have just been

[01:18:26] Jacob: Shot and killed mm-hmm with their hand

[01:18:29] Brandon: Movements yeah real-time like the most

[01:18:32] Jacob: Minimal lag that you can believe we're no longer limited by the physical world no our weakest genius people can be anywhere they need to be it you can have you know your brilliant people working together in the same room I mean it's kind of like what Holograms do on Star Wars right now like

[01:18:49] Brandon: I think that it skyrockets our asses right into the future like we are just about to slingshot it we jumped we

[01:19:00] Jacob: Jumped with technology we quantum leap because I mean just think about it like from what is it like let's say like says

[01:19:13] Brandon: 1600 at 1900 what happened what

[01:19:19] Jacob: Massive technologies like really just

[01:19:22] Brandon: Took over though then one was like

[01:19:25] Jacob: Electricity and late 1800s Early 1900s I think because after that then that's what the car started you know taking into effect and things like that but just even for that example of like even if some amazing things did happen like it took hundreds of years for some amazing things to happen people were still like raping and killing and pillaging and hitting he's in **** believes and using sword for people ago there was slaves and **** three people ago and now we're moving a hundred years in the span of three years or four years five years right could you like if you look at an iPhone eight now

[01:20:08] Brandon: You're like that's a piece of **** piece

[01:20:12] Jacob: Of **** my got my own fine you shake it out yeah get out of here my whole screen my whole screen is filled you know what I mean like it's all I could touch it all mm-hmm now they have foldable phones

[01:20:23] Brandon: And now they have all this stuff like well so our perception changes because even just the phone like I was talking about how like at the very beginning I was mentioning how like on the 14th of March it was like were chill I think it's fine and then 16th March is like get the **** in the house don't touch anybody like salt drink bleach like the

[01:20:40] Jacob: Fast technologies the thinking about phones I actually had a time because I had like um when I was younger I rented a room from like a kind of a hoarder situation and so just really like germs and in touching people and touching things that I didn't like very much like affected my like mental cognitive ability so OCD kind of so like touching your screen like if you had a phone that you weren't supposed to touch the screen it's just a button phone mm-hmm it stresses me out when people touch their screens my tie Lee Daniels could actually account for this mood always **** with me so like flip phone and someone puts their bare finger on the screen this seems so weird right like why would that bother you but I'm telling you back then the only time you would see a screen like this before phones was like a TV and is like dude don't **** put your screen and don't put your fingers prints on my screen you don't touch TV screens and you don't touch like I don't like you know finger prints on glass tables so that's one thing so but what

[01:21:40] Jacob: I'm saying is that there was a point where like my perception of reality like you know maybe I was just young and in high school sort of thing but our perception of like what we feel about these objects what we feel about these this technology changes like even

[01:21:54] Brandon: Internally like it changes like my our

[01:21:57] Jacob: Physiology like I would get stressed out when say you know you touch a screen but now it's like you Tut you only touch the screen there's no buttons on my phone like so I changed I developed into it because I'm like I want this technology so bad I forget exactly what I was trying to point a finger out there but if we look at I guess just our

[01:22:19] Brandon: Adaptation and our ability to change like it seems like it's like even our personality in our like acceptance of

[01:22:28] Jacob: These technologies may change very quickly like when front phones first came out I'm sure there was tons of people internet first came out but like it's crazy like I'm not using that's stupid and then five years later they're completely different person they're on Facebook every day they're using the internet every day like we see

[01:22:45] Brandon: Our advancement in technology from where we're at the moment we discover it but we don't realize how quickly like oh shoot it's only been a year and a half and I literally hated that technology a

[01:22:59] Jacob: Year ago like we don't we don't look back and realize that we that we were kind of against certain technologies in certain ways like before it's you know not too late but as before it's where it were consumed by it so like I know at one point we're gonna be in virtual reality but also just before we go into virtual reality it's a it's a it's slimy the way they do

[01:23:22] Brandon: It's very consciously slime

[01:23:26] Jacob: Slime it's very slimy it's kind of like commercials for movies or commercials for products and things

[01:23:35] Brandon: Like that it's an innate thing it's that you don't necessarily know you even realize your phone will slow down it's

[01:23:48] Jacob: Making you think that your CPU a processor or anything like that in your phone is slowing down you start to

[01:23:58] Brandon: Lose service you apps are kind of

[01:24:01] Jacob: Sketchy a little bit as your phone gets

[01:24:04] Brandon: Older you're going to realize that it

[01:24:08] Jacob: Boots on a little bit slower it's

[01:24:11] Brandon: Gonna drop calls a little bit more all these things happen innately because they want you to upgrade your

[01:24:19] Jacob: Phone you know they make it hard for you to have this phone hmm so even if you fight it and you're like you know what god damn it like I really don't want I don't want them to stick it to me like I want to be in control of my phone situation mm-hmm they're just gonna keep

[01:24:38] Brandon: It's an automated system it's automating it's there's no human behind it coin god damn it this guy is **** he won't give up he won't give up it's a room 3 it's a robot going give up today give up does not care give up the next stashing does what it's programmed to do I will have you and it's just like it's

[01:25:03] Jacob: A relentless soulless thing that can

[01:25:06] Brandon: That is propelling you to abide by

[01:25:14] Jacob: The rules that you know coincides with

[01:25:19] Brandon: Everybody it's and it's something that you don't even know happens like or even if you do know happens you're just like I'm not bigger than this

[01:25:29] Jacob: Company right you know like I just need my phone right now man I just moved my phone so how do we unless we state just so we can continue with trying to let's say figure out what's going on how is it

[01:25:43] Brandon: If we if we're to assume to continue

[01:25:46] Jacob: Moving forward with pointing out that yes it's slimy that's happening but we're also as a society as

[01:25:53] Brandon: A human race we are slaves to advancement so the reason why your iPhone 3 lags is because all the servers and all the money and all the focus from

[01:26:04] Jacob: Apple has been moved to the next whatever in the more that you move it like you know it's kind of like the newest Xbox has a way more people working on it them the first Xbox that ever came out like at some point they're like hey guys we're gonna shut down these servers because there's like not we just don't have a lot of people to employ it's not returning profit on the Xbox the old Xbox is so we're gonna shut it down there's not be able to you know whatever like so those sort of things happen like we're a slave to just

[01:26:30] Brandon: **** momentum of like because it's not that they don't realize that they're stepping on people or anything but like these big technology companies like are

[01:26:39] Jacob: Almost there almost a slave to this like

[01:26:42] Brandon: Constant like we're talking about with the inability to be uncomfortable the inability to be like this is okay where it's at like it will stumble into what's next it's a constant like better how do we make it better and how do we make it better than then Microsoft and faster and faster and how do we make it better like so our market our market mind for the human race has kind of like led to the to the speeding up of wonderful technologies but at the same time it's like our detriment it's it's a it's come full circle I in a sense because these companies have created a piece of technology that for some may dislike but for the vast majority of it when they say that they're going to create something new and then the people are like yes we want it we want it we want it you give it to them they have it for awhile they know that new technologies progressing extremely fast and know that they get tired of the same old stuff the

[01:27:50] Jacob: People then go back to the to the

[01:27:53] Brandon: Company and say well what else you got

[01:27:56] Jacob: And they're like **** I'll show you what I got let's go boys let's go slave to the

[01:28:02] Brandon: Consumer yeah and you're now their slave the consumer because they can't stop producing for the consumer and it's making their money so they're like there's no reason why we should stop like we're just gonna keep these profits going and going and the people are keeping it going so it's like this never-ending cycle of the people

[01:28:21] Jacob: Consuming and the consumers consuming

[01:28:23] Brandon: What people want to consume and just

[01:28:25] Jacob: Yeah we're trying to get somewhere where

[01:28:28] Brandon: We're constantly trying to arrive at somewhere that doesn't exist we're trying to arrive at so that at the finish line that never existed kind of like I was talking about Alan Watts the dance is not for me to get from the side

[01:28:39] Jacob: Of the room to that side of the room it's about the dance in between so like are we do you think maybe we're a bit blinded by like thinking we need to advance I think I think life would be a

[01:28:51] Brandon: Little bit better if we knew what

[01:28:53] Jacob: Exactly we were advancing for into if there was a goal if there was a common goal with the entire world with the

[01:29:01] Brandon: United States with whoever saying by the year 2040 as a society we want to be here mmm is this why that is yeah is

[01:29:13] Jacob: This what we're moving forward this what we want for our people right yes or no

[01:29:19] Brandon: If it's yes let's go **** full-on and

[01:29:23] Jacob: Dress team and you know what yeah like

[01:29:26] Brandon: I'm like I'm gonna work overtime we're all working as a people right now the entire world the entire community our entire country is focused on getting here by 2040 if we beat that uh achievement we've just achieved it if we come short we still got life to live we're still we can still get there 24 can we given up on

[01:29:51] Jacob: On accomplishments we've given up on

[01:29:55] Brandon: Understanding that there are marathons to run and all you want to do is just

[01:30:01] Jacob: Jog all day you know it's just you're taking the life out of people when you could approach it differently you could approach life so much differently by setting a goal for the people and not just having them jog in a

[01:30:17] Brandon: Circle and make them lifeless and just make them hate their **** existence like you can't have what you want as the people up top you just have to set it a

[01:30:29] Jacob: Goal in a way that resonates with

[01:30:32] Brandon: Everyone right I mean so setting a

[01:30:39] Jacob: Goal that resonates with everyone so like what if we had earlier we are talking about you mentioned we're having a nice conversation about Mikan vision

[01:30:47] Brandon: About like you're like I'm asking yourself like what you want out of life and you're like kind of you're talking about how like before bed you kind of like reconnect with that thing I have some friends who I was just talking with

[01:30:57] Jacob: Yesterday texting with him talking about how like they have their Christians and they'd like to read the Bible you know they're once a day they have look at the pages or whatever it is but you know so it's so to me what that does that reconnects them to like the person that they want to be like that's like it's a reminder of their vision because like so I have like the I painted couple days ago what's your vision on the wall over here add to it no timing I know I would i but like so you were mentioning that so let me bring him back into there's four so does humanity have

[01:31:32] Brandon: A vision so I think that we unknowingly have a vision I think that we're working towards a vision that's **** messy or

[01:31:41] Jacob: Working towards too many different ones

[01:31:43] Brandon: So if we could have some sort of

[01:31:45] Jacob: Coinciding as an earth as a planet or all like dude we're just kind of like you guys you keep your nationalism like America is **** awesome China is **** awesome it's be the way you are ever going to have differences yeah point the front of your ship though at this and like what if what if then some

[01:32:03] Brandon: This is some ideal amazing cool world where like some millionaire somebody who's just **** like Elon Musk somebody who everybody loves just says like Earth's vision is

[01:32:15] Jacob: And it's like some great sense in every second damn you know what if we did just follow that it does displace a new law this could go in the place of like you know law of gravity like you know we have absolutes in our universe maybe we're on the brink this is an interesting concept of thought experiment we're on the brink of a new

[01:32:36] Brandon: Law of discovery so like what goes up must come down yeah what every action has an equal

[01:32:46] Jacob: Opposite reaction like Einstein's theory of gravity like all these things what if we're on the brink of something

[01:32:55] Brandon: That will be seen as like a combination of not only consciousness biological laws but biology laws of the universe our five senses how we perceive reality but also it has to do with society and civilizations because we can't deny our physical reality like as much as we are not humans riding around in like a little controller system in the back of our brains where we can't deny that we have like I am also Jake and you are also Brandon right we have physical beings and we have through civilization as how we interpret things

[01:33:31] Jacob: So I'm almost wondering if we're on the

[01:33:33] Brandon: Brink as humanity of a new law that's

[01:33:38] Jacob: Going to be in the form of poetic

[01:33:42] Brandon: Language poetic thematic creativity so

[01:33:46] Jacob: Like what is your vision like so you know people like I my vision is to end suffering or my business to see or experience you know okay so let's let's go back and forth what do you think what would be a humanity vision I

[01:34:03] Brandon: Think first that humanity vision would

[01:34:06] Jacob: Be to understand that humanity shouldn't

[01:34:11] Brandon: Work for people at the top have visions just like Elon Musk wants

[01:34:19] Jacob: To go to the moon or just like you know

[01:34:22] Brandon: Whatever something like that like mmm

[01:34:25] Jacob: People in power have positions that they want they have visions that they want to achieve but they understand that people

[01:34:35] Brandon: Are erratic and sporadic and they're kind of hard to control so let's kind of mass manipulate them and let's kind of keep them working around the clock and things like that so they don't they don't have the time not only the time to

[01:34:53] Jacob: Figure out what we're doing but they

[01:34:55] Brandon: Don't have the time to necessarily care

[01:34:59] Jacob: Either they're working so much and they're worried about how they're gonna keep food on the table how the bills are gonna be paid there's that you know that's all gonna happen but they're kind

[01:35:12] Brandon: Of dumb because people work the best

[01:35:15] Jacob: Together like no one person is the smartest one person if you have a hundred people and it out matches that one person immediately transfer I ain't born with nobody around we're already so close America is a great a great country that has a lot of free enterprise and things like that but a lot of it from so

[01:35:35] Brandon: Many like almost everyone I know is not free in a sense of the way they work and a lot of it is by choice but a lot of it is because the fear of not being able to

[01:35:46] Jacob: Provide for their family there is a way

[01:35:50] Brandon: In which the top government officials

[01:35:54] Jacob: High ranking business can

[01:35:57] Brandon: Understand that let's have a vision but we've kind of been on the wrong path we should all kind of work together right now and figure out if we can get to this

[01:36:09] Jacob: Vision faster if we all work together

[01:36:12] Brandon: And all kind of get away from whatever we're don't need to be working on because if there's if there's a job

[01:36:23] Jacob: Where someone is cleaning baseboards and

[01:36:27] Brandon: A **** batting cage area and he doesn't need that job it's a non-essential job like the boss is just

[01:36:36] Jacob: A dick because he loves clean baseboards

[01:36:40] Brandon: You could be utilizing that human in

[01:36:43] Jacob: Another job hmm that is beneficial for

[01:36:47] Brandon: The entire human race that with their contribution can help us get here and once we get here we won't need all these other jobs that kind of suppress people and keep them away from their families and keep them working their ass off nine-to-five working double jobs not being able to see their kids until the weekend whatever the case may be right

[01:37:11] Jacob: We have to come together as a human

[01:37:16] Brandon: Species and learn that together is where

[01:37:20] Jacob: We need to go together is the vision that's the first vision that we need is absolute together this that's so obvious right that's nothing you're the most obvious but it's the last you know we are one like duh yeah let's see on the podcast we are one we are know that

[01:37:45] Brandon: Does it makes complete sense it's like

[01:37:48] Jacob: Wire zombie horde so effective cuz they fight as one you know it's also crazy but like they are so **** unstoppable because well they have one home at you with one common goal and that is to eat your brains so what is

[01:38:05] Brandon: Our common goal now is I mean it survive but it's also like as like there's a comfort appeal to it and how's this if this fall's comforted though

[01:38:18] Jacob: Because they present comfort with

[01:38:21] Brandon: Materialism right and they don't say hey let's work our ass off as a as United

[01:38:29] Jacob: States people let's work our ass off to

[01:38:31] Brandon: Get to this goal along those were along

[01:38:35] Jacob: The way every day you work we're gonna

[01:38:39] Brandon: Have some break time where like everyone

[01:38:42] Jacob: Everywhere takes a break we all mingle we all hmm make sure we're eating healthy we're all make sure we're drinking water we all make sure that we are fulfilling our human needs not just

[01:38:52] Brandon: Slave laboring our way up to this goal

[01:38:56] Jacob: That we need to fulfill you know it's like we're consciously aware that you are a person you are a person this is probably a dream world that will never happen but this is what needs to happen

[01:39:09] Brandon: This is what is very plausible this is not it's not something that you can be like oh no that's way out of

[01:39:18] Jacob: The picture there was a statistic that

[01:39:20] Brandon: Said that out of most nine-to-five jobs

[01:39:26] Jacob: I think for hours total of like absolute

[01:39:31] Brandon: Productivity goes into a job and the rest of the hours are spent on your phone working or like daydreaming

[01:39:40] Jacob: Sleeping whatever the case may be

[01:39:43] Brandon: There's so many unutilized hours that

[01:39:46] Jacob: Are unnecessary for people that could be

[01:39:49] Brandon: Fulfilled in other ways like you could

[01:39:52] Jacob: Have group exercises and group meals like going to Germany is was one of the nuts experiences for me because they had they have a beer gardens and so like any day throughout the day it's always filled like you know breakfast lunch and dinner whatever it is like you'll just be walking around and there's just like a massive park or

[01:40:16] Brandon: Whatever with park benches everywhere and people just sit next to each other and just mingle and they just like talk and drink beer and have sausage and like

[01:40:26] Jacob: Just do whatever and that sort of community doesn't exist and a lot of places definitely doesn't exist here I

[01:40:37] Brandon: Think just this like slowly integrating things like that and just so appreciating like it like knowing where we're going but appreciating where we are really because I think we'd get there faster if we were blatantly honest about where we want it to go right like there's you can't even ask ourselves there's skepticism from the from people

[01:41:01] Jacob: At the top when you lie you're always

[01:41:04] Brandon: Thinking of a way to tell the truth

[01:41:06] Jacob: You're always thinking of avenues it's like chess you tell it you have a lie that you want to tell someone and if they try and call your **** you have this avenue and if they call you on some angle from that you have another Avenue and it's your scapegoat and another one in another one another one when you tell the truth and just say hey this is where we want to go let's talk about this there might be some negative repercussions of it but let's talk about it let's see what like what we got to do to get here that is kind of cool for everyone and like beneficial for everyone it's it just seems crazy that

[01:41:46] Brandon: The obvious is so hard for people to understand it's so hard for people to understand that we are destroying the earth and like **** millions of cars throughout the world all day every day or just driving and just polluting the

[01:42:03] Jacob: World like crazy and you're just like you know what's the long-term of the way that we're living life like we don't like we detach we're so Instagram if ocation that we're so caught up in ourselves that we detached like dude imagine like but honestly if I was raising a kid right now I'd be like **** man I'm sorry that we're bringing you like into this world of such unknowns you know what I mean like I'm sure there's plenty of parents who are like kind of curious like hoping that hoping

[01:42:31] Brandon: That like some sort of clarity comes

[01:42:35] Jacob: Yeah man it's like yeah because we like it dude what's the point of we've got a half an earth in 100 years we're gonna have ours and you know we need to be we're smart enough as a species where we need to be able to like stop the momentum and take a look and be like all right guys like where they're clearly evolving like the Internet and this technology like we're clearly changing like we need to figure out how to help the rest of the people change and that sounds like a **** imperialistic hand forced neuro-link inside every human like that's seen that's rough you know so man it's they're astronomical

[01:43:12] Brandon: Questions with so much depth and I don't know how we how we saw them and I think talking about them just as like we're trying to talk about at the level that we really are like huh I'm no I'm not genius man I'm no I'm no like philosopher I'm just I'm just a dude

[01:43:29] Jacob: Talk with my friend man I'm just I'm just contemplating these things that I study and look up you know I think that a lot more people should be to I think a lot more people could make ask themselves like where am I going but like I kind of wonder around like everybody has a hole what are we doing because you can kind of look at people with more I don't empathy obviously but

[01:43:50] Brandon: Like if you just see people as how

[01:43:53] Jacob: Eyes mm-hmm you know what I mean like oh like you okay you've reacted to

[01:44:00] Brandon: Your biological urges the same way that I have but I know that's not who you are it's not who that's not who I don't know it's think it's just a different perspective of seeing people for

[01:44:14] Jacob: Like what they what brings them joy what

[01:44:17] Brandon: Like brings the most people some sort of

[01:44:20] Jacob: Solidarity and like pureness and togetherness and light and love and like because what are we were just you know spiritual beings riding around an Apes body or whatever came after our name and we're just like trying to figure it out like we all have none of us know the **** answers not a damn single one a lot of people claim to but

[01:44:40] Brandon: I don't know do you remember right before you were born do you remember what you were thinking about I don't I can't remember what I was **** dreaming about last night as soon as I wake up I forget it inception right also we ignore dreams

[01:44:52] Jacob: And dreams are we don't ignore dream but like the average person unless you like that's a thing you do is study dreams holy **** bro eight hours if you 24-hour day like so much of your time is spent in a place that you literally don't know or think about ever you do it you wake up and you continue doing that you're doing and someone's like what you dream about you're like oh it was crazy it was bah and then you move on with your life and you don't dissect it or like look what your subconscious mind is telling you the craziest ****

[01:45:24] Brandon: Though that happens to so many people is

[01:45:27] Jacob: The feeling of like I remember there was one time where I was dating this chick in high school and we had just broken up and I still like really cared for really like she was super cool we just didn't work out whatever like I had a super

[01:45:48] Brandon: Super vivid dream of me driving in a car with her and we got in a car accident she died right next to me damn and I was like I looked over and she was like dead and I felt what it felt like to lose her and when I woke up

[01:46:05] Jacob: I literally felt like that agony and I was like crying and I was like what da **** like I was a dream right like I

[01:46:16] Brandon: Feel like I literally felt that and

[01:46:19] Jacob: Everything felt real like you couldn't tell me that wasn't real because in my head it like was clear as day yeah and I think it's weird too like what like what was that trying to say to you Mike it like it's like it is it was it trying to say something like why did that specific one stand out to you like why wasn't that another one of the millions of dreams that you forget every night right yeah like it's so interesting and I mean I bet you there's people that have studied it and probably actually know quite a bit about dreams yes I just which would be such a cool podcast if you had someone on there **** listener if you study dreams please email me at a Junkyard Love Jake at gmail. com yes please cuz I am I'm gonna I'm gonna be sitting right over there just like staring at ya dreamin yeah have you ever experienced or tried or any of that lucid dreaming eye or sleep paralysis we could talk about - I've done I've had only one instance of sleep

[01:47:19] Brandon: Paralysis lucid dreaming I've not

[01:47:23] Jacob: Not really too fond of it dreams within

[01:47:27] Brandon: Dreams ish well deep dreaming well lucid dreaming is as you're dreaming like your regular night you are able to awaken

[01:47:37] Jacob: From the dream as in you notice that you're dreaming and then you kind of have actually some sort of free will is a strange word to use in the situation but you have some sort of allocation to what you can do you can be like oh okay likes like some people literally like study or like go like if they do what they want like I think it's still kind of like a fantasy side of your brain my people fly around yeah yeah you're able to control so you literally notice that you're in a dream so what people to do so like I lightly look into it I'm not like in depth into it and I haven't done it yet but I do kind of some of the things like so there's a thing called a reality check which sounds sometimes but it's essentially like as you're going about your day like if you think about it pops in your mind just like look at your hand if you like is this reality yep it's reality like in that sounds strange

[01:48:29] Jacob: Right but what happens is you do that enough your subconscious starts formulating these things and then when you really ask yourself not just like a habitual thing but you're like **** like a literally look around smell taste hear or whatever like do you see your nose at the bottom of your vision these sort of things like do and if you do that in a dream because you train your subconscious mind to do such you were actually to be like oh it's not oh **** this is a dream and so if you can chill yourself on excitement and like you don't instantly wake up out of that you're able to apparently walk around

[01:48:59] Brandon: Fly around control your dreams and this is a it's literally I'm telling you this is like you can look on Reddit and there's hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people who do this that was a exaggeration of the number I don't know but it's literally they have protocols within the government like there's CIA documents FBI documents I've

[01:49:19] Jacob: Laced through the CIA ones and they

[01:49:22] Brandon: Literally talk about how they have studies on lucid dreaming in the head like I don't know if it's like **** agents and the lucid dreaming world or what but it's super weird right but anyway so you can awaken from a dream and then control whatever you may

[01:49:36] Jacob: Like that's something there's a possum if against of that well so I think if you think of humans outside of like our lineage of humans like if you think of like different civilizations that we have proof that we're like just decimated by you know global catastrophes asteroids and like clearing clean earth I was talking about like how history is different if you look at different like let's say psycho technologies like we have we have the five senses and we use science like science is kind of like our God of sorts but if they have like back then there's a lot of different civilizations and even in our lineage that lived in the dream world like so shamans for example the shaman character in civilizations like it's you know the person who writes on the wall and the caves and the person who explores the NAM of the dreamworld but like in the consciousness world he comes back any teaches the people the physical world so the shoot I lost that I'm

[01:50:44] Brandon: Losing the thread lucid dreaming lucid

[01:50:49] Jacob: Dreaming yeah so essentially it's not it's abnormal to us especially in the Western world right lucid dreaming but lineages like all that like a lot of old stories like when you read about shamans this is the story that you hear a lot it's like they're I think I think this is broad generalization again no I think a lot of the Indian people like people who like grew up in more forests like less civilization and condensed together I believe that they probably like talked to like let's say their gods in the in the spirit world it could have been like a during lucid dreaming like it could have been for all we know it's like as much as you and I as we're talking and we're like well that's crazy you can control your dreams like imagine there could have been a civilization of people who are talking in their language and they're like wait you can't control your dreams with the **** what do you do for hanging hours not you idiot you know I mean like that's how different things could be and yeah sorry I think I floated off top now I seem to be losing the thread a little bit no that's okay it's lucid dreaming it's you having it's like all

[01:51:58] Jacob: Right Oh a world unknown honestly its and what I think is very odd is that

[01:52:12] Brandon: Within those communities like you were saying like people who are indigenous and sort of out there and have those

[01:52:22] Jacob: Kind of traditions of lucid dreaming or

[01:52:26] Brandon: Having breathing exercises where they

[01:52:29] Jacob: Unloosen it together as soon as a group or you know things like that it seems so odd to me that those are very if you've ever been a part of one you'd know how spiritually and lighting it is and how connected you can be to the people around you even if you have no idea who they are like I did a simple gosh

[01:52:57] Brandon: What kundalini yoga class or it's like

[01:53:01] Jacob: Deep heavy super fast your breathing breath work and it gets you I edit it gets you all this stuff but it also puts

[01:53:11] Brandon: You in this crazy mindset of

[01:53:15] Jacob: Having extreme amounts of oxygen pushed into your muscles and you feel like extremely alive and you feel your senses

[01:53:26] Brandon: Extremely heightened and then we started

[01:53:29] Jacob: Doing the home together as a class of like 30 people like all owning at once and I **** you not you sink in or with everyone on one

[01:53:41] Brandon: Common sound wow that is just an amazing vibration and would you experience what do you mean what do you mean sink him like what was how is this a different form of consciousness than normal yeah

[01:53:53] Jacob: It's it was a unified consciousness

[01:53:59] Brandon: It was it was like a

[01:54:02] Jacob: A soccer team that is going down the

[01:54:08] Brandon: Field and they seem like they are kicking the ball to each other with purpose and intent and they're all on the same page like if one kicks the ball like and it looks like it's going nowhere you'll just see someone running out of nowhere like oh I see what you're doing yeah how did you see that and they were both on the same positions on a stage exactly and working together just like that it felt we learned a common language we can communicate in real time in front of other people who don't know that common language and it was it wasn't anything that's what's so

[01:54:44] Jacob: Weird about it was a sound that

[01:54:47] Brandon: Connected yourself to everyone around

[01:54:51] Jacob: You and created a pattern of vibrations sounds so crazy and it sounds so hard to to grasp right and be like all right well what's the purpose of like sound vibrating people connecting with each other it's something that you cannot

[01:55:08] Brandon: Just be like you can't just explain to someone you have to feel it and that's for those people that are skeptical and being like well I don't really care about connecting with people and all that stuff you don't know right if you have not tried it you don't know what it feels like and you don't know what you're missing out on and who knows

[01:55:28] Jacob: Maybe you don't want it right if you know but you will feel more connected to people you will feel you'll feel more mhm you'll have more emotion I just you know I'm such a why not person I'm like I want to discover like you know like I

[01:55:47] Brandon: Want to experience like whatever it like I'm here for a fickle amount of time like what like if I choose who I am then

[01:55:55] Jacob: I don't get to experience all these wonderful beautiful things like thank you if I have someone who I enjoy hanging out with who I enjoy spending time with who I you know I can trust and I trust their opinion and they're like doing this breathing home exercise it's just super crazy like whatever like they're not trying to say like you need to believe this because the truth I feel like we get caught up so much with trying to like really you know that's not truth that's not really you know like what like what why not just as you're here on earth choose with

[01:56:26] Brandon: Your own stomach to just experience to experience whatever you want I try to how I overcame I wish I had a strange fear of water that was kind of bumming me out and I really wanted to wakeboard in last summer I had this like I kept like trying to build myself up because I think about wakeboarding before the trip I think about it and I'm like **** I want to do that or do that so I tried to move from this from being the person who's in the boat wishing that he was doing it so it but I tried so I tried to move from that into like what would make me want to just do it and I just kept thinking like that and then so finally we get into the boat and it's like Jake you wanna try and I had this instant like hell yeah hell yes I do and I did and I did it and I and I loved it and in the thing is the thought that I had accidentally like provided myself with was what do you want to have had experienced at the end of your life and like we you could insert these things and they lead you to

[01:57:21] Jacob: You know going into doors that you never tried before you know like don't just blindly follow a bunch of **** because you want to try everything you know use your intellect but I think like exploring all of these things is like really where life is that and I also think that a good relation to like what you're talking about when everybody kinda like one consciousness one kind of vibe we're all just home what happens we shut down our default mode Network like our typical reactions are typical thoughts are thoughts that we always that we don't even realize that with Rinku ik thumb yeah right are our loops

[01:57:57] Brandon: Are in constant just a default mode network is shut down in those positions of sorts and so you don't have thoughts about what you're doing you're just doing this is kind of like think back Brandon - the first time that you fell in love like weather was really love or not when you're a kid you're 15 you're 13 whatever and you're like oh my gosh I've never felt this for a person is this love this is love Oh what it was

[01:58:22] Jacob: Is your present you're not thinking of the future you're not regretting the past not thinking of what you need to wear to school tomorrow to impress people because you're just present you're laughing you're not thinking about we should say you're just saying it you were truly present for the first time that's when you're experiencing love so

[01:58:40] Brandon: I think some of our most powerful

[01:58:45] Jacob: Moments that can be attained as humans are when we shut up and get out of the way and we just try and we just we try by choosing to let go in a sense

[01:58:56] Brandon: So Christians in any time I say

[01:59:01] Jacob: Christians listeners is I'm just using as a super broad example I'm nothing like just trying to describe people I'm generalizing and I'm so aware of that be aware for me I'm a **** DJ but a but a so Christians so like we you know we're doing Kundalini Yoga and we're stretching our bodies and if somebody walked by who was like a Christian for example they might look in the window and people are going home and they're in your book what the **** but like the thing about prayer a lot of

[01:59:28] Brandon: Like people in other religions when

[01:59:32] Jacob: You're praying and there's everybody praying and you guys all kind of have connected to this like the pastor has given his sermon he's given his here's what we're kind of thinking about so every person that remembers kind of brought up to the same thought like what we're learning today about courage and individualism and you know whatever like we're learning them about this amazing thought that feels good when you articulate it we're all getting together and we're connecting to the same feeling the vibe per se so when everybody has their eyes closed and they're praying like if you lock into it and you just say **** you let's try it let's use my imagination yeah let's like it look you know just like when you were a kid when you used your imagination you pretend not

[02:00:11] Brandon: Do I feel this innately do does this magically just light up a thing in my chest no man pretend for just be like what

[02:00:19] Jacob: Would it feel like if I did you know experience like okay so they're saying this like really just shut up you know just shut up and let yourself experience whatever you know shut down your

[02:00:30] Brandon: Constant train of thoughts it brings you into the present moment and then later you can choose like I want to take that forward or I believe that or I don't believe that or I'm going to do some more research tor but I think that I was just a human

[02:00:44] Jacob: You know the spiritual ape the spiritual being riding around in an Apes body we should we should allow ourselves to experience things uh you know without identifying with them yeah like just try it out so like the UM thing I think just it like you try it out and you're like dude it's so I'm different it's crazy like it's awesome it's whatever like I definitely

[02:01:10] Brandon: Learned the experience of trying not only new things abstract things just trying things in general that like just

[02:01:22] Jacob: Don't even sound like me or something that I would do in my lifetime but have been presented to me because of the fact that I was to go hiking all the time

[02:01:32] Brandon: Still I haven't gone recently cuz when it was done over but back at it soon but

[02:01:42] Jacob: I would love like going hiking and then you just you know you just kind of see like a like a nice like cliff face or like a boulder like a big boulder you're like climb that mm you know there was

[02:01:54] Brandon: One specifically I was hiking with my

[02:01:57] Jacob: Fiance and we were like down in this like little Gorge area and I look up and there's just like this Pride Rock looking rock like rock that was like halfway up a mountain and but like the

[02:02:12] Brandon: Hike up to it was like a free

[02:02:16] Jacob: Climb and it just looked gorgeous from like I could imagine what it looked like from that view it was just all open it was like whoa like you get crazy view if

[02:02:29] Brandon: You saw from up there and I remember

[02:02:32] Jacob: Thinking in life you can always look at

[02:02:37] Brandon: You can always look at that mountain or

[02:02:39] Jacob: You can look from that mountain you'll never know what it is to look you'll always know what it is to look at it with question and excitement and a lack of understanding but you'll never know what it's like to look from it if you don't go up and climb it try it get there and

[02:03:01] Brandon: Understand and go huh the view is kind of shitty or holy **** I love this view I never knew I could love yoga like this like this is the most amazing thing I've ever felt but there's something to be said about the work that you have to put in because if there was a helicopter in that situation that just came down picked you up put you on top of it you'd be like yeah that's pretty nice yeah it's like if you're like oh it's gonna take me eight and a half hours but you

[02:03:26] Jacob: Get to the top it's different right you know like you just live the life you lived the experience of getting to the top not just got to the top that for

[02:03:41] Brandon: Some reason I was stuck in my head there so long like yeah you can either look at it or you can look from it was Kevin saying in my head you can look at it or you can look from it I like kept walking in that little Gorge and I was like hey can we turn around real quick I want to climb that and she was like go climb it then like I don't care yeah and I was like all right cool and I just like went and climbed it and I was like I was so worth it that was

[02:04:07] Jacob: Just how'd it look from there it was

[02:04:10] Brandon: Indescribable yes it's indescribable some of the things that's why I love hiking so much you're like going on those jogs and everything like that we see some crazy views that are just it takes

[02:04:23] Jacob: You so far out from society and from your normal life it seems so crazy that you can like wake up one day go drive like four hours go

[02:04:35] Brandon: Hike this crazy insane mm-hmm vu

[02:04:38] Jacob: Landscape see a bear see whatever one wants your bear I don't want to see a bear either but you might I don't know be prepared but prepare and there'd

[02:04:49] Brandon: Blared prepared bad jokes but

[02:04:55] Jacob: But yeah it's uh yeah it's you should go out and try it absolutely dude it's just be like yes man do you think yes man yes and

[02:05:06] Brandon: It's do things that I had a Rebecca wildest on the podcast and she had this thing she's like aha I always say take me to a place where I feel small and I was like oh that's Savage and that is such an awesome yeah because like it's just a reminder like so it's so like on my run at the end of my run there's this

[02:05:23] Jacob: Big log that's from like 1917 or

[02:05:26] Brandon: Something and they have like a chunk of it that's cut out and they put like the like it was the this old at this year like they have like the markers on it's like a on display as you come into our town but on my runs I was walk and I was run and I hit it's my it's my like end like I hit it and I'm like

[02:05:45] Jacob: Okay it's my insignificance like it reminds me because like a lot of times when I'm running I like amping myself up like you're a savage you're a beast you got this a savage **** like you got this like yeah you're Marathon around or whatever and then I get to the log I'm like you're all so insignificant impermanence you know and it's this old law just reminds me there's one last

[02:06:06] Brandon: Forever you will know right like this

[02:06:09] Jacob: Was here before you and it's you aren't more important than it that's not how it works you know it's but I think that having those you know it's kind of like who likes you know the stoic sort of thinking and you know you know make us maybe a little Buddhism thinking like just feeling insignificant and not like getting so caught up and like you know cuz even like ascending a mountain and getting the top there is an asset of like I did it I did this awesome there's also an aspect when you got the top where you let go of the eye and you're like I don't know and this is amazing I don't know why it's just breathtaking you just you just get out of the way and allow that situation that view like all of your eyesight from left and right up and down so good aim yeah and it's but it's just so nuts that 9 out of 10 people will probably get to the top and immediately pull out their phone and take a picture of mmm

[02:07:06] Brandon: What they've got as hopes that they will

[02:07:09] Jacob: I don't know if anyone even looks back at the pictures maybe they'll show them to friends like look at the hike I did this past weekend but six years down the road are you still looking at that or do

[02:07:24] Brandon: You more remember so the memory of you and your friend getting for this I'll what about the smell you can't I mean I do the memories cream I do a really weird thing I know it's pretty gross but

[02:07:38] Jacob: I always most people don't know this at all but I usually always get to the top of a mountain I see a little piece of rock or a dirt and I grab it I touch it

[02:07:49] Brandon: That touch my tongue you taste you I taste it hell yeah I like it's a very weird thing but like I'm like have you consciously thought about it like we're just kind of like I feel I don't know I did it one time because I had my hand down and I'm like oh that's and some reason I was like trying to get something out of my mouth and I was like yeah hmm that's what the top tastes like and I like did I do that each time now

[02:08:12] Jacob: Right well I feel that I mean I do a lot

[02:08:16] Brandon: Of weird **** myself that I might it tastes like at the top yeah **** don't know what it tastes like know what it tastes like and now when we here to make some dough beats and write some shitty raps you can now say you **** don't know what it tastes like add them up I've I don't eat the dirt at the top Brandon we've talked about eating dirt and consciousness and being aliens and being

[02:08:41] Jacob: Organic boot loaders and being conscious beings and paying spiritual Apes and just kind of explored some thought

[02:08:49] Brandon: Experiments um I thought it was a great conversation I'm glad that you came over today I'm glad that uh I'm glad that we were able to like talk about just the corona virus and like also lead into

[02:09:01] Jacob: Like a regular talk because it's something like I said I'm you know I can't you know I am nervous about the corona virus I am I don't know exactly what to do about this podcast I really want to keep going but I want to make sure everybody's healthy and safe and I don't want to do the wrong thing so I'm just trying and thanks for letting me try and thanks for being here to **** with me and also thanks for listening because I hung out with a lot of humans just a talkative dead bro and just like I have all these concepts that I've just been like taking notes on the day but em yeah it was a good time I appreciate it too man thank you yeah we'll have to do we'll have to do some more and especially we can do some one zoom Pappa zoom podcast but especially just coming over to create because you're one of the listener if you're

[02:09:48] Brandon: Dying to get around people and I'm not fetal ha and I think this is against the law so keep that in mind but maybe just

[02:09:56] Jacob: You know please take care of your mental health like that like it's so serious you know mental health is not something that's like a little sign thing that you only deal with when you're feeling super **** depressed and scared like deal with it now if you're afraid of your mental health if you're if you are concerned with your lack of being around

[02:10:12] Brandon: People just please limit your contact

[02:10:14] Jacob: But you know choose a couple people to be around choose a couple people to fill your life with and make sure you're valuing those conversations take extra precautions and that sort of thing like look at look at our life and our health as full circle for yourself and for

[02:10:30] Brandon: Others and go from there absolutely and if I have one piece of advice for this

[02:10:36] Jacob: Sort of coming to an end and you know hopefully it is coming to an end and kind of lifting this is a new opportunity to become a better you where

[02:10:49] Brandon: We've all been secluded we've all been pushed into a corner of kind of a harsh

[02:10:54] Jacob: Situation and you don't know what mental

[02:10:59] Brandon: Struggles people are going through this is a chance to be the nicest know most

[02:11:08] Jacob: Just very nice person I guess I don't even know what the word is to say right now but it's just me just be nice be overly nice and know that this is a time where you can

[02:11:23] Brandon: Enrich the community you can build relationships stronger than ever you can you can change the world for the better

[02:11:30] Jacob: In a great way and also establish some

[02:11:33] Brandon: Very strong attributes about yourself

[02:11:36] Jacob: Keep drinking water keep working out keep don't want to move drink that water drink that water take a big old deep belly breath and say I love yourself

[02:11:46] Brandon: Hello you have a great day

[02:11:49] Outro: Every day just think to yourself today I am saying out loud - today I'm going to have a great day I believe I'm gonna have a great day today will be a great day let's go pretend imagine see what it looks like we're gonna die I feel like my podcast is gonna turn it like so much positive content right at the meeting where it's just like no do you hang up hang up I love it though because I like the guests are always like yeah I do want to say this like a little encouraging I love it so good well I like how you start off with it but yeah let you write let you write out alright bro I appreciate you Listeners have a good rescued a pizza listeners take a look around look at your surroundings just be aware make sure you're not mindlessly consuming too much content even if it's my content I'd rather have people living fulfilled lives than just consuming my **** so I hope this stuff helps if you don't mind if you have a second just after you get present of course like share subscribe send to a friend if you did like it send a clip

[02:12:51] Brandon: Post a clip whatever you like just get

[02:12:55] Jacob: The word up take care yourself